On Sun, 2009-12-20 at 00:15 -0600, Mathew Howard wrote:

> Yes, I see your point. I agree that we need a way to only show windows
> on the current workspace, although I'm not sure what the best way to
> implement it would be. 
> 
> I think the developers have said they have other plans for the window
> name in the panel, but I could see a hot corner working.
> 
> Sam Illingworth wrote: 
> 
> > The overlay fails as a window switcher as soon as you have a lot of
> > windows and/or a lot of workspaces, because every window becomes
> > tiny so you can't see what's in it.  We're wasting space both on the
> > rest of the overlay and on other workspaces when all we want to do
> > is switch between windows on the current workspace.
> > 
> > 
> > How about a hot corner that brings up a window list for the current
> > workspace (it could be the same style as the alt tab)? Or, my
> > preferred option, clicking the name of the current window in the
> > panel could bring up this list. But if you have multiple desktop you
> > definitely need a way of just seeing things on the current one - the
> > whole point of separating things out onto other workspaces is so
> > they don't distract from the task at hand, the windows for which are
> > on the current workspace.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 19 Dec 2009, at 10:44 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > I don't see how Gnome-Shell fails on any of these. Firefox's
> > > download window is simple to find in the overview, besides you can
> > > always get to it from Firefox's menu - or put a button for it on
> > > the tool bar if you like. GIMP works fine - the only windows that
> > > show up in the overview are the actual image windows and the other
> > > windows automatically come to the foreground when you select one.
> > > On MPlayer you do have to go to the overview twice to get both the
> > > controls and the video, but I see little difference from any other
> > > system where you have to select both windows separately anyway.
> > > 
> > > Danté Ashton wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > I do have a few other examples where the current GNOME-Shell
> > > > would fail;
> > > > 
> > > > FIrefox and it's separate download window.
> > > > 
> > > > GIMP and it's multiple windows.
> > > > 
> > > > MPlayer
> > > > 
> > > > A Dock is impractical here, as all of them are currently
> > > > incapable of 
> > > > showing me what's in the window. Unless we either have the
> > > > classic way 
> > > > of managing windows, someone gets them to be all grouped
> > > > toghter, or 
> > > > distributions start replacing GIMP with GIMPShop and Firefox
> > > > with an 
> > > > embedded download window...
> > > > There needs to be some level of window management in an
> > > > activites 
> > > > window, and not just in the overlay.
> > > > On 19/12/09 04:20, Corrie Strydom wrote:
> > > > > I like the gnome-shell, and yes its very easy to get used to.
> > > > One
> > > > > idea/problem, could someone make it possibe to change in what
> > > > corner
> > > > > you want the "zoom" to be? I have this annoying habit of
> > > > pushing the
> > > > > pointer top-left everytime I'm typing something. I'd like my
> > > > zoom to
> > > > > be bottom left.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 19/12/2009, Sriram Ramkrishna<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >> It only took about 1 day for me. It was very natural for me.
> > > > Taking one
> > > > >> person's impressions and then saying the whole idea sucks
> > > > makes a lousy
> > > > >> argument against the gnome-shell concept.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> sri
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Денис Черемисов
> > > > >> <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>> Few weeks to get comfortable? Man, are you crazy?
> > > > >>> It's too long and only proves the gnome-shell idea sucks.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> 2009/12/19 Bob Hazard<[email protected]>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> It's actually more useful to someone with only one workspace
> > > > because
> > > > >>> 
> > > > >>>> they tend to have even more overlapping windows.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> It only needs one click to switch windows anyway. The top
> > > > left corner
> > > > >>>> is a big target you can do a very approximate gesture to
> > > > trigger the
> > > > >>>> zoom without clicking.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> After a while it becomes second nature and I was surprised
> > > > that it
> > > > >>>> feels very old fashioned to go back to a flat desktop.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Try Docky if you find the transition uncomfortable but it
> > > > only takes a
> > > > >>>> few weeks.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> 2009/12/18 Danté Ashton<[email protected]>:
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> Hey all.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> I've been watching GNOME Shell for a while, but there is
> > > > one problem
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>> that I
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> really can't see being resolved.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> How useful is this to someone who uses one desktop? Just
> > > > one?
> > > > >>>>> Never-mind
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>> the
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> other one, or three, or four...
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> Why should I, the user, have to perform three extra clicks
> > > > just to do
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>> what
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> it takes me one to do now?
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>> There has been less video/photo material to consume then I
> > > > could safely
> > > > >>>>> 
> > > > >>>> make
> > > > >>>> 
> > > > >>>>> a judgement on, and if the 'one desktop' problem has been
> > > > addressed and
> > > > >>>>> solved, I apologize for taking up your time.
> > > > >>>>>
> > > > >>>>>
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> > > > >>>
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What I've got right now (outside of Gnome-Shell) is the top-left corner
set up as a hotcorner for the Compiz Expo plugin to sort-of simulate the
Gnome-Shell workspace switching. The bottom corner is a hotcorner for
the Scale plugin, which tiles the windows on the current workspace. It's
working pretty good for me, but I reckon just a hotcorner by itself
would be kind of startling. What about a small icon in the corner? Maybe
just a small pic of a couple windows, when you mouseover it they move
into a grid, and click to tile the windows for real? I've attached a
quick mockup of what I mean.

<<attachment: screenshot1.png>>

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