Hi, I didn't think this way before. Nevertheless your thoughts are reasonable. I’ll try to adapt my behaviour to use software suspend more often.
But people still may have a problem with „holding down a modifier key“ to switch between suspend/shutdown modes. It’s fine with me. I (now) know that I have to hold down the alt key. How do you want to teach people to hold down a modifier key, when they can’t find the shutdown menu item in gnome shell? Without help they perhaps never will discover this possibility. Everybody wants to shutdown his/her computer sometimes. The mockups in https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Design/Whiteboards/SystemStopRestart show a menu item called „Install Updates & Restart...". In my language (German) it is „Installiere Updates und starte [das System] neu..." (without „das System“ it sounds odd). That’s quite long and won’t fit in the menu. I even think it is the wrong place. What about a notification with an okay button? What If people want/have to restart their computer manually? They have to click „Power off..." to restart. That’s quide odd. It’s the same in Gnome 2.xx (Shutdown -> Restart). A solution like that would be fine: normal: Suspend holding down modifier key: Restart Power off Regards, Marcus 2011/2/26 William Jon McCann <william.jon.mcc...@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Gendre Sebastien <ko...@romandie.com> wrote: >> ... >> And the choice to have Suspend but not Power Off in the User menu >> encourages them to waste energy. > > I'm usually inclined to ignore claims like this that don't provide any > supporting evidence. But since you're probably going to keep on > saying it anyway... > > Encouraging the use of suspend will very likely result in a dramatic > power savings for many people. If you only have the options: a) > continue to run at full power b) stop everything you're doing, save > all your work, close all your apps, lose all your state, wait for the > system to power off; you have a problem. In this case, your selfish > motivations are in opposition to low power consumption. That's not > going to turn out well. And no amount of preaching will change that. > > What you need is something that doesn't have to make that trade. > Maybe something that doesn't force me to abruptly and jarringly > interrupt my activities and efficiently uses power at the same time. > Do we have such a thing? > > It is also worth pointing out that you can't really measure waste in > absolute terms anyway. Waste is subjective: it means to use > carelessly or without value. I think it is pretty clear that, for > many, there is value in suspending instead of stopping activities. > So, we're spending a tiny tiny bit of energy here in the suspend case > in order that we may save a tremendous amount of energy in others. > That isn't waste - that is investment. > > We'll achieve even more impressive power savings when we enable > suspend on system idleness. Which for portable systems will result in > much improved battery run times. There's that win-win again. > > Jon _______________________________________________ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list