Then you did not read or understood my example with Lollypop.

Or with KeepassX : do you think that it is reasonable to close / re-run this 
app, retyping the password OR to leave it open all the time so that it shows in 
the Dock (forcing you to go back to its native workspace) and in the activity 
view.

Seriously such a workflow cannot be sane in any form for anyone who is 
seriously using his computer.

The problem is that you have to keep the GUI open to get the notifications 
or/and the application running in background.
And typically, such apps should not need to be in our sight all the time. I 
mean in the dock or activity, especially when the minimizing feature has no 
effect on this view.

It is OK if you run 2 apps, let's say your browser and your mail client.

But I have a much more intensive use, so I don't want to have background apps 
in my view. That is why so many (majority?) gnome users use an extension to 
have the tray on the bottom up.

I hope it clarifies, but it really seem to be hard to have Gnome people 
understand it, while many users are expecting a solution.


Le 27/09/2016 à 13:03, Adam Tauno Williams a écrit :
> On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 12:52 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 11:47, 0x90 wrote:
>>> Where is the man power to migrate or replace all these
>>> applications?
>> Migrate to what? There's no real alternative to the tray in Gtk
>> AFAIK. AppIndicator could work, but GNOME Shell doesn't even support
>> it out of the box (only via an extension 
>> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/615/appindicator-support/).
> 
> As a user - - what is missing?
> 
> In Control / Notifications I have many options; the ability to turn
> on/off notification banners.  I see indication of notifications in the
> toolbar next to the time.  And I can toggle on/off notifications per
> application.  I have many detailed options - out of the box.
> 
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