* Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) <936-846-2...@kylheku.com> [2020-02-22 21:27]: > On 2020-02-22 01:22, Andreas Enge wrote: > > And another ad-hominem attack. Can you substantiate the claim of us > > being > > powermongers? > > You have a Code of Conduct, the bulk of which is about how people will be > kicked > out. > > https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct > > "Enforcement", "Ban", "Correction", "Warning" .... > > You are sick.
I would not say so. People learn in life what they learn. They have copied the code of conduct, without profound analysis of it, they have copied the "social contract" term without profound analysis, they have wrote it in such manner to be in future amended as they wish, as now the "Social Contract" has the version number 1.0 -- it is so obvious that they will be introducing other postulates into it. That is not sick, that is intentional division among the number of people who are contributors to GNU. That is intentional damage to the image of the GNU and intentional misrepresentation. If GNU loses donation, they can sue them, but RMS would never do it. I am just saying hypotheticaly, would they do the same to proprietary software company, they would be already in deep financial trouble. But instead of writing so much about other things on their website, I would like to see writings and philosophical approach from that small group of people behind the non-GNU website gnu.tools -- there is nothing much. There is not even one seminar that I could find by Ludovic Courtès about free software philosophy, including Andy Wingo or other contributors. I have done two seminars on GNU free software system back in time in Mediothek of Stuttgart, Germany. I was the one who was introducing the GNU operating system in former Yugoslavian area, back in time around 2002 and promoting it, including that I have made and prepared my own special GNU/Linux distribution which was first in that area, and specially prepared for mobile and encrypted communication. Yet I am not contributor to GNU, and for that reason, people like me are not welcome in any discussion with them, as Ludovic Courtès is discriminating people who are contributing to discussion. They value only the list of GNU maintainers. The list of bug reports is quite surely not important for them. There are so many people who are contributing with code to GNU, but they are the lower cast, which they do not wish to look upon. They are, like Ludo recently said to Alex "not invited to anything" because they are not "GNU people". "GNU people" are only GNU maintainers, provided their names are in their file of "GNU maintainers". The file is a collection of information of people for which they did not get permission to collect it under the EU regulation. They do not respect the EU charter of fundamental rights, even though they are located in EU. They do not uphold legal values of their own area, but wish that other people upkeep with them, to uphold their own values. Reference: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:12012P/TXT "Article 7 Respect for private and family life Everyone has the right to respect for his or her private and family life, home and communications." Thus collection of GNU maintainers from GNU mailing lists represents violation of private life and communications. They are not up to it. It does not matter. Reference to GDPR: https://gdpr-info.eu/art-5-gdpr/ Personal data shall be: collected for specified, explicit and legitimate purposes and not further processed in a manner that is incompatible with those purposes; further processing for archiving purposes in the public interest, scientific or historical research purposes or statistical purposes shall, in accordance with Article 89(1), not be considered to be incompatible with the initial purposes (‘purpose limitation’); Collecting GNU maintainers' personal information, first name, last name, email address, for the purpose to divide them, for the purpose to tell them how GNU project is bad (reference: https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/ or "Joint Statement on GNU project") -- is violation of the GDPR and privacy. It is incompatible with those purposes. Who is controller of the personal data collected? Can gnu.tools, Ludovic Courtès, Andy Wingo, Carlos O'Donell, Mark Wielaard and Andy Enge tell us more and give transparency about controlling personal data of GNU maintainers? There is no GDPR notice on the website, neither privacy policy that I could find it. The "Code of Conduct" on their website: https://wiki.gnu.tools/wiki:code-of-conduct says: that "Examples of unacceptable behavior include: Publishing others' private information, such as a physical or email address, without their explicit permission" -- but their own illegal collection of personal information of GNU maintainers is alright for them. I see there a lot of hypocrisy. Who is to trust them? They do not have legitimate interest to collect such data. Thus their collection is illegal in EU. I do not vouch for those laws, I am just pointing out that their writings and pretensions do not correspond and are contradictory to their real activities. What they are vouching for is to have more control over GNU project as being technicaly skilled. I don't know what it is, I would like to know what it is. So far we know publicly, there is some not so secret but secret agenda, for example, they five people disdain RMS for some here not mentioned extreme political reasons very popular in France. Their agenda is thus to try somehow to remove RMS. They are trying to gain support from GNU maintainers who are then to make pressure on FSF (even if not relevant for GNU), or whatever other parties, to remove the RMS. In their writings there is very little of free software philosophy, their backgrounds are not fundamental, rather technical. They are discriminating among the people based on their level of experience or involvement in GNU project. They do not ask who is who, they just look into their illegally collected "GNU maintainers file", and if person's name is not on the list, it comes to ignored list. Jean