Eli,
You are of course free to moderate me or any user, yet it doesn't change
the fact that trust in development process related to LLM contributions
is already eroded.
Your "Congratulations!" in that context of moderating me is dripping
with sarcasm and Schadenfreude, just a petty jab rather than a neutral
administrative action. So no Eli, I trust you are very technical, yet
not seeing the obvious.
My intention is to point out to obvious, what is not obvious to you. I
clearly said that nobody can know who is saying the truth, and that is
not same as calling someone liar.
If you see a house in bad shape, you cannot see people in the house, yet
you can assume that something is wrong in maintaining the house.
There is so far no trusted procedure in your development process
ensuring that code was not generated by LLM.
While there are alarming signals: authors using service as software
substitute, do not run LLM on their own computer, and "Claude" stamps
all over, pointing and making such contributions suspect. And also all
of the future.
My intention was to point out to observations. Finally we are all here
for the GNU GPL software -- I have idea, let me analyze it all even
better and write the report on the place which cannot be moderated,
censored.
Jean Louis
On 2026-08-02 07:59, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2026 20:38:23 +0300
From: Jean Louis <[email protected]>
Cc: Philip Kaludercic <[email protected]>, [email protected]
Here is yet another case that may erode the trust in Emacs
contributions.
As mentioned many times in the past, this list is inappropriate for
such discussions.
Discussions about trusting contributors have no place at all on public
forums.
Discussions of GNU guidelines regarding use of LLM-generated output
should be taken to gnu-misc-discuss, or some other forum.
You have been asked several times not to discuss this on Emacs lists,
but failed to comply. So your "moderate" flag is now set ON, and all
of your messages here and on emacs-devel will be subject to approval
by the list moderators. Congratulations!
To all the others: please stop responding to posts in this thread (and
others like it), as we should shut down such discussions ASAP. They
are an insult to all involved. We will NOT have on our lists
discussions of whether some contributor or a member of the Emacs
development team are liars.
