> On Nov 25, 2018, at 1:38 AM, Michael Hendry <hendry.mich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 24 Nov 2018, at 12:17, John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2018, at 7:20 PM, Michael Hendry <hendry.mich...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Following reconciliation of recent bank statements, I had prepared several 
>>> income and expense reports for the year ending 31/10/2018.
>>> The crash occurred when I requested a Balance Sheet for the same period.
>> 
> 
> Thanks, John.
> 
>> There’s no reason to reboot your computer. You’re running a real operating 
>> system, not Microsoft.
> 
> That’s the theory, anyway...
> 
>> 
>> ESJE.gnucash was the previous saved file, the autosave didn’t get far enough 
>> to rename it, so that’s OK. You can go ahead and open it without any 
>> worries. As long as the changes between 17:51 and 18:08 were transaction 
>> edits/additions only and didn’t use the business features then replaying the 
>> log file should recover your work in the 18 minutes. There’s no risk in 
>> trying it, GnuCash always renames the old file before trying to save a new 
>> one... but you can check the results in memory first as long as you get it 
>> done in less than 15 minutes (or you turn off autosave in Preferences until 
>> you’re happy with the results).
> 
> OK, I loaded the ESJE.gnucash file, and recovered any subsequent changes from 
> the .log file, and all seems OK.
> 
> I subsequently ran the Balance Sheet and Profit & Loss reports without 
> trouble, and exported them to PDF.
> 
>> 
>> The crash is kind of interesting. It appears to be while processing a list 
>> of top-level windows. I guess the invalid one is the just-dismissed 
>> reconcile window, but do you have your reports going to tabs or to new 
>> windows?
> 
> This morning's work had involved:
> 
> 1. Reconciling a bank account (which involved making a few additional 
> entries).
> 2. Preparing reports on various asset, liability, income and expense accounts 
> for the financial year (1st November 2017 to 31st October 2018) and exporting 
> them to PDF.
> 3. Requesting a Balance Sheet for 31st October 2018 - which is the point at 
> which the crash occurred.
> 
> I have the reports going to tabs, not new windows. In this context, I 
> generally close the tabs involved in each report before moving on to the 
> next, but I can’t swear that this was done before the Balance Sheet request; 
> there would have been a maximum of 3 tabs open at that stage.
> 
> I’m sure I had completed the reconciliation some time before the crash, 
> because I needed to reconcile before preparing the report on the bank account.
> 
> Here’s a directory listing for the PDF files in reverse chronological order.
> 
> | => ls -l -t
> total 1848
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   53878 24 Nov 16:10 Profit & Loss-Year to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   48158 24 Nov 16:08 Balance Sheeet at 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   42343 24 Nov 08:08 Liabilities-Loan from 
> Ruth Irons to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   43701 24 Nov 08:07 Income-Work for Third 
> Parties to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   47074 24 Nov 08:07 Income-Shawbrook 
> Interest to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   40246 24 Nov 08:05 Income-Donation to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff  252042 24 Nov 08:05 Income-Course Fees to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   44620 24 Nov 08:04 Expenses-Venue to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   56610 24 Nov 08:04 Expenses-Tuition to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   52697 24 Nov 08:03 Expenses-Travel to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   41479 24 Nov 08:02 Expenses-Sound and 
> Lighting to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   73336 24 Nov 08:01 Expenses-Houseparent 
> to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   52530 24 Nov 08:01 Expenses-Bank Service 
> Charge to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   41175 24 Nov 08:00 Expenses-Audit and 
> Accountancy to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   55383 24 Nov 08:00 
> Expenses-Administration to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   52882 24 Nov 07:59 Assets-Current 
> Assets-Shawbrook Charity Savings Account to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff   57312 24 Nov 07:57 Assets-Current 
> Assets-Petty Cash to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff  302646 24 Nov 07:56 Assets-Current 
> Assets-Clydesdale Bank to 2018-10-31.pdf
> -rw-r--r--@ 1 michaelhendry  staff  507400 17 Nov 18:42 General Ledger to 
> 2018-10-31.pdf
> 
> The Clydesdale Bank account was reconciled before the associated report was 
> created at 07:56 today, and the crash occurred at 08:08:42.302 +0000, just 
> after the creation of the “Liabilities-Loan…” PDF report.
> 
> You’ll see that the Balance Sheet and P&L reports were created this afternoon.

The crash wasn’t in the report generation, it was getting ready to do the next 
auto-save at 08:08; your activity at the moment was coincidental. I asked about 
tabs-vs-windows because it was processing a list of the open GnuCash windows to 
set the boundaries for the “busy” cursor and one of them was invalid. Your 
workflow doesn’t mention prices or securities, so If you were sending the 
reports to tabs then I suppose that the only open window was the main window 
and the only closed one was the reconcile window.

Regards,
John Ralls
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