Hello Geert, thanks for helping out. In my case the client returned an item.
How would you create the credit memo? Martijn Heuts usadutch...@bellsouth.net Sent from BlueMail On Mar 21, 2019, 12:01 PM, at 12:01 PM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: >Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org > >You can reach the person managing the list at > gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Processing refunds (Martijn Heuts) > 2. Re: Unable to add prices to some securities (Derek Atkins) > 3. Re: Unable to add prices to some securities (Alan Taylor) > 4. Re: End of year rollover (Derek Atkins) > 5. Re: The Meaning of Split (previously Example of multi-split > feature of CSV importer?) (Derek Atkins) > 6. Re: Processing refunds (Geert Janssens) > 7. Re: The Meaning of Split (previously Example of multi-split > feature of CSV importer?) (D) > 8. Re: Unable to add prices to some securities (Adrien Monteleone) > 9. Re: macOS Mojave 10.14.3 cannot open GNUCASH (suk wah Bernstein) > 10. Re: The Meaning of Split (previously Example of multi-split > feature of CSV importer?) (Adrien Monteleone) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:59:29 +0000 (UTC) >From: Martijn Heuts <usadutch...@bellsouth.net> >To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org >Subject: [GNC] Processing refunds >Message-ID: <202644084.8698518.1553176769...@mail.yahoo.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > >Hello, >When I process a refund I pull up the customer's invoice, click on 'Pay >invoices' and enter therefund amount in the 'refund' column. >My P&L report did not show a difference when I compared it before and >after processing the refund.Is there another way I should process the >refund or is there a better report to show this refund? >I would think the total income on the P&L should be less the refund. >Thanks for giving my better insight in GNUcash! >Martijn > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:07:43 -0400 >From: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> >To: Alan Taylor <alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> >Cc: gnucash-user mailing list <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] Unable to add prices to some securities >Message-ID: <sjmva0cpbgw....@securerf.ihtfp.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Alan, > >Alan Taylor <alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> writes: > >> Ah ok ? well thank you for your work on a great program. >> >> Without wanting to start any flame wars, can I ask for your opinion ? >> I have been using GnuCash for a long time, 10 years+ and it is an >> important program for me. >> I could run it on Linux, MacOS or Windows - given the choice of all >> three which would you recommend as the best host, purely for GnuCash >? > >In my opinion (humble or otherwise), I feel that Linux is #1, then >MacOS, and then Windows. Windows is by far a second-class citizen; >none >of the developers actually do main development on Windows, whereas John >DOES do main development on Mac. Most devs still use Linux. > >Of course, just my $0.02, so YMMV. > >> Brgds/Alan > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >-derek > >-- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 3 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 22:11:25 +0800 >From: Alan Taylor <alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> >To: John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us> >Cc: gnucash-user mailing list <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] Unable to add prices to some securities >Message-ID: > <CAHDg13GYkDw=0=3wkxhFx4tXZMqxzkVkVo5XFiM=cvz3ddv...@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >John, > >Basically reliability, accuracy and trouble free operation. Not the OS >itself, but GnuCash when running on the OS. > >Rightly or wrongly i have the feeling that development time is not >necessary divided equally among the 3 versions ? Nothing wrong with >that, >it?s just I don?t particularly care about the OS so if GnuCash has >fewer >problems on a particular OS, then i?ll use that one ! > >Resource use not a factor. > >Cheers/Ala > >On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 at 21:56, John Ralls ><jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us> >wrote: > >> For what set of criteria, weighted and evaluated how? >> >> Regards, >> John Ralls >> >> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 8:10 PM, Alan Taylor ><alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> > Ah ok ? well thank you for your work on a great program. >> > >> > Without wanting to start any flame wars, can I ask for your opinion >? >> > I have been using GnuCash for a long time, 10 years+ and it is an >> important program for me. >> > I could run it on Linux, MacOS or Windows - given the choice of all >> three which would you recommend as the best host, purely for GnuCash >? >> > >> > Brgds/Alan >> > On 21 Mar 2019, 11:05 +0800, John Ralls ><jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us>, >> wrote: >> >> Alan, >> >> >> >> Yeah, a bunch of Gtk problems on Macs--some of them my fault from >an >> update I did last fall. I've been working on fixing them for the last >> month, so 3.5 should be *much* better. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Ralls >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 6:18 PM, Alan Taylor ><alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Wow ? thank you John ! >> >>> That was it for the input interface problems. It solved the >selection >> problems for "Save As? (all databases now available) and the >Namespace >> issues when manually adding the stock price. >> >>> Do you know why ? I cannot guess how a second monitor would do >that ? >> >>> >> >>> Brgds/Alan >> >>> On 20 Mar 2019, 21:48 +0800, John Ralls ><jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us>, >> wrote: >> >>>> Do you have more than one monitor? If so, make sure that GnuCash >is >> on the main one--the one that has the "Arrangement" tab in System >> Preferences>Displays. >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> John Ralls >> >>>> >> >>>>> On Mar 19, 2019, at 9:58 PM, Alan Taylor < >> alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> More things not working properly ? >> >>>>> In the Save As dialogue there is no way to select sql - click >on the >> displayed xml does not reveal any other possibilities >> >>>>> Also the price editor dialogue does not allow selection of a >> namespace. There should be several, but it displays ?All >non-currency? with >> no other selections possible. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Tried a reinstallation (3.4), no change. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> BRgds/Alan >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> BRgds/Alan >> >>>>> On 19 Mar 2019, 23:05 +0800, Bucky Carr <bc...@purgatoire.org>, >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Forgot to mention. For the Online Price update, I switched >from >> >>>>>> Alphavantage to Yahoo_JSON and it seems to be working fine. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 3/19/2019 8:47 AM, Alan Taylor wrote: >> >>>>>>> And of course the Online Price update does not work, I have >> updated Perl etc. as per the WIKI. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>> gnucash-user mailing list >> >>>>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> >>>>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> >>>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >>>>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> >>>>>> ----- >> >>>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> >>>>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>> gnucash-user mailing list >> >>>>> gnucash-user@gnucash.org >> >>>>> To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >> >>>>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >> >>>>> If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >> >>>>> ----- >> >>>>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> >>>>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 4 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:14:41 -0400 >From: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> >To: Philip Burg <philip_b...@hotmail.com> >Cc: Matthew Andrews <matthewandrew...@gmail.com>, > "gnucash-user\@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] End of year rollover >Message-ID: <sjmr2b0pb5a....@securerf.ihtfp.org> >Content-Type: text/plain > >Hi, > >Philip Burg <philip_b...@hotmail.com> writes: > >> I would like to close my books at the end of my financial year but >> have access to the previous years files, my thoughts were to archive >> the file at the end of the year by backing up to a cd/dvd then start >> afresh with the new financial year. would this be possible. I am >using >> windows 10 and Gnucash Version 3.4 Build I.D. 3.4+(2018-12-30) > >Archiving old books is always a good idea. > >Restarting at the begining of the year, however, is not necessarily is >good idea. Specifically, there is a Close Books feature that zero's >out >your Income & Expense accounts into Equity, but it doesn't actually >DELETE any data. > >Your other option is to Export the account tree which will create an >empty file and then re-open it. The downside is that you will have to >reset all your opening balances, and if you use any business features >you will need to manually re-enter all that metadata too (customers, >vendors, tax tables, etc). I highly ANTI-recommend this approach. > >Personally, I don't do anything. All the reports handle year-end >accounting without doing anything special. I don't mind seeing my >income and expense account balances showing lifetime achievements :) >But that's just me. > >Hope this helps, > >> Regards >> >> Philip Burg >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >-derek > >-- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 5 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:17:16 -0400 >From: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> >To: "David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] The Meaning of Split (previously Example of > multi-split feature of CSV importer?) >Message-ID: <sjmmulopb0z....@securerf.ihtfp.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >"David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> writes: > >> I like the terminology ?simple? versus ?compound?, but I do not >> understand what is meant by a ? two-line simple transaction as a >> special case of a compound transaction.? > >This is what happens you expand a simple transaction (which has only 2 >splits) by clicking on the "Show Splits" button, or change the View to >Split-ledger or Transaction Journal mode. It will display as a >compound >transaction but have only two lines (plus the blank spilt line). > >> David > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >-derek > >-- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 6 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 15:36:18 +0100 >From: Geert Janssens <geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> >To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org >Cc: Martijn Heuts <usadutch...@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Re: [GNC] Processing refunds >Message-ID: <12633999.roiyjsn...@legolas.kobaltwit.lan> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Op donderdag 21 maart 2019 14:59:29 CET schreef Martijn Heuts: >> Hello, >> When I process a refund I pull up the customer's invoice, click on >'Pay >> invoices' and enter therefund amount in the 'refund' column. My P&L >report >> did not show a difference when I compared it before and after >processing >> the refund.Is there another way I should process the refund or is >there a >> better report to show this refund? I would think the total income on >the >> P&L should be less the refund. Thanks for giving my better insight in >> GNUcash! >> Martijn > >As far as I understand paying a refund doesn't change your income. It >only moves money from >one asset account (your bank account) to another asset account (your >accounts receivable). > >Your exact use case is not very clear from your description. What's the >reason of the refund ? >* Did the customer pay you more than you invoiced ? In that case the >income was already >created by the invoice, the (over)payment and refund were merely asset >moves. > >* Was part of an invoice disputed and the user requested a reduction ? >In that case you should >create a credit note first (which would decrease your income), and the >refund would be to "pay" >for this credit note. > >Regards, > >Geert > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 20:16:10 +0530 >From: D <sunfis...@yahoo.com> >To: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com>, Gnucash Users > <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] The Meaning of Split (previously Example of > multi-split feature of CSV importer?) >Message-ID: <mgmy16r9419r6kbh5t34qi7x.1553179570...@email.android.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >It seems circular to say that there is a distinction between a simple >and compound transaction, and then say a simple transaction is a >special case compound transaction. Then we're back at defining the >difference between, say, a "split" transaction versus a "multi-split" >transaction, which we're trying to move away from as justifiably >confusing. > >Calling one a "simple" transaction, and the others "compound" seems >like enough. Perhaps the explanation of the technical aspects of this >(i.e., the structure of a two sided simple, as opposed to an n-sided >{n>2} compound transaction), could use the term "split," as it is >defined by Gnucash. This would disambiguate the use of the term >"split," such that it would only be used for this specific case. > >Regardless, I am still against the "Ledger entry" locution. > >Perhaps we need a translation from American English to British >English... > >David > >On March 21, 2019, at 7:47 PM, Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> wrote: > >"David T. via gnucash-user" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> writes: > >> I like the terminology ?simple? versus ?compound?, but I do not >> understand what is meant by a ? two-line simple transaction as a >> special case of a compound transaction.? > >This is what happens you expand a simple transaction (which has only 2 >splits) by clicking on the "Show Splits" button, or change the View to >Split-ledger or Transaction Journal mode. It will display as a >compound >transaction but have only two lines (plus the blank spilt line). > >> David > >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > >-derek > >-- > Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 > de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com > Computer and Internet Security Consultant > >------------------------------ > >Message: 8 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:06:25 -0500 >From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> >To: GnuCash <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] Unable to add prices to some securities >Message-ID: <6d8e3734-27ab-49d4-b258-1650ee41f...@lusfiber.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >Alan, > >I?m in agreement with Derek here. Since GnuCash is written using the >GTK toolkit, which is not native to either Windows or Mac, Linux is the >top choice. While I use GnuCash daily on Mac, there are a few (though >easily worked-around) hiccups, such as with multi-monitor setups, >application tabs, etc. > >The only drawback to Linux is if you aren?t comfortable with building >from source *and* you always want the latest version without upgrading >your OS. Many distros keep a fixed version in their repository and >newer versions usually don?t get backported. So if you want a newer >version, you?ll have to build it. (usually a not very painful process, >but this varies by system and distro choice) New versions of GnuCash >for Windows and Mac are always just a download and click away. One of >the devs is working on maintaining a flatpak image from here on out, so >that should address this case, but it too comes with some caveats due >to the sandboxed nature of flatpak apps. (external and network drive >access need special attention, and report printing is limited to first >printing to file) One user was kind enough to build a .deb backport of >3.4 to Ubuntu 18.04 and you can find the links for it in the list >archives. Perhaps he might do this for 3.5 when it is released as well. > >Hope that helps with your decision. > >Regards, >Adrien > >> On Mar 21, 2019, at 9:07 AM, Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com> wrote: >> >> Alan, >> >> Alan Taylor <alan.james.tay...@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> Ah ok ? well thank you for your work on a great program. >>> >>> Without wanting to start any flame wars, can I ask for your opinion >? >>> I have been using GnuCash for a long time, 10 years+ and it is an >>> important program for me. >>> I could run it on Linux, MacOS or Windows - given the choice of all >>> three which would you recommend as the best host, purely for GnuCash >? >> >> In my opinion (humble or otherwise), I feel that Linux is #1, then >> MacOS, and then Windows. Windows is by far a second-class citizen; >none >> of the developers actually do main development on Windows, whereas >John >> DOES do main development on Mac. Most devs still use Linux. >> >> Of course, just my $0.02, so YMMV. >> >>> Brgds/Alan >> >>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 9 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 08:11:24 -0700 >From: suk wah Bernstein <sukwahbernst...@gmail.com> >To: John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us> >Cc: "Maf. King" <m...@chilwell.net>, gnucash-user mailing list > <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] macOS Mojave 10.14.3 cannot open GNUCASH >Message-ID: > <cajmkrwpjyb0h5buexl1hf1ditmodxk3anjdpncj1zreqf9s...@mail.gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >good news is it is working so long as it stays open. >not so good news is it intermittently quits unexpectedly. > >is there a way to stabilize? thanks so much for everything. > >On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 6:49 PM suk wah Bernstein ><sukwahbernst...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> yay! it opened, quit suddenly, reopened... >> >> what great support! such amazing community! so much connection, such >> love????? >> >> blessings >> suk wah >> >> On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 5:19 PM John Ralls ><jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us> >> wrote: >> >>> Maf's right, 2.4.7 is very old and is indeed too old to run on >Mojave. >>> The _inflate_validate error message is consistent with trying to run >too >>> old a version of GnuCash. If it's still spinning the beachball then >by all >>> means force-quit. Then drag Gnucash to the trash and empty the >trash. >>> >>> You can download the latest release of GnuCash from >>> https://www.gnucash.org. >>> >>> Regards, >>> John Ralls >>> >>> > On Mar 20, 2019, at 2:07 PM, suk wah Bernstein < >>> sukwahbernst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > I am trying to download Gnucash 3.4, still failing at opening it. >>> > >>> > Meanwhile, in Applications Folder, there is a hardrive icon, under >the >>> old Gnucash icon, titled Gnucash-Intel-2.4.7 >>> > Wild guess, it may be to do with the Gnucash version that I have >been >>> using and working well before upgrading to Mojave. don't know for >sure. >>> > >>> > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 1:58 PM Maf. King <m...@chilwell.net> >wrote: >>> > On Wednesday, 20 March 2019 19:52:28 GMT suk wah Bernstein wrote: >>> > > fyi FINDER not responding. force quit? >>> > > >>> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 11:34 AM suk wah Bernstein < >>> > > >>> > > sukwahbernst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > > fyi color wheels still spinning in desktop where icon is and >>> Applications >>> > > > after several hours. email working. >>> > > > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > I don't know Macs, but it sounds like a reboot might be a good >idea. >>> > >>> > I am a bit confused, though. You said you had downloaded Gnucash >3.4, >>> but >>> > then you mention GC 2.4.7 - which is *very* old. have you got >some >>> old >>> > partial installation of an old GC lying around? >>> > >>> > Maf. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 10 >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:15:56 -0500 >From: Adrien Monteleone <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> >To: GnuCash <gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >Subject: Re: [GNC] The Meaning of Split (previously Example of > multi-split feature of CSV importer?) >Message-ID: <7b3d07a7-ff0f-46db-ab1d-87c708813...@lusfiber.net> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > >I?m not sure ?ledger entry? is a prime choice either. If we were to >consider the pen and paper world, this is done as a ?journal entry? but >that entry always has two components (debit and credit) with at minimum >two accounts involved. I?m going to dig up my accounting textbook and >see how they reference the entries but I?m going to hazard an early >guess that there is no mention of the individual parts of the >transaction other than debit/credit. > >Regards, >Adrien > >> On Mar 21, 2019, at 9:46 AM, D via gnucash-user ><gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote: >> >> It seems circular to say that there is a distinction between a simple >and compound transaction, and then say a simple transaction is a >special case compound transaction. Then we're back at defining the >difference between, say, a "split" transaction versus a "multi-split" >transaction, which we're trying to move away from as justifiably >confusing. >> >> Calling one a "simple" transaction, and the others "compound" seems >like enough. Perhaps the explanation of the technical aspects of this >(i.e., the structure of a two sided simple, as opposed to an n-sided >{n>2} compound transaction), could use the term "split," as it is >defined by Gnucash. This would disambiguate the use of the term >"split," such that it would only be used for this specific case. >> >> Regardless, I am still against the "Ledger entry" locution. >> >> Perhaps we need a translation from American English to British >English... >> >> David >> > > > > >------------------------------ > >Subject: Digest Footer > >_______________________________________________ > >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >----- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > >------------------------------ > >End of gnucash-user Digest, Vol 192, Issue 50 >********************************************* _______________________________________________ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. ----- Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. 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