Both the Trillium benefit and the HST/GST credit are essentially refundable tax 
credits, except that are paid out either over a period of a year beginning some 
time after the filing deadline, or in a lump sum (but later).  Unlike in the US 
where state tax refunds are income for federal purposes, provincial and federal 
taxes do not interact.  So these are purely tax-free.

> On Apr 18, 2019, at 9:36 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
> <adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
> 
> Michael,
> 
> Yep, I’m well aware. I just looked over my Mom’s filing before she mailed it 
> off. Certainly, having to massage the raw number two or three times with 
> various figures from multiple lines on several different schedules just to 
> figure out if her SS payments were taxable I can attest you are correct, that 
> my question isn’t always a simple one.
> 
> But even an answer of ‘depends’ is an answer that you can take some action on.
> 
> Though I don’t live in Canada, I’m still curious to see how that one should 
> be handled.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2019, at 8:23 AM, Michael or Penny Novack 
>> <stepbystepf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> On 4/17/2019 6:16 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>>> Someone on the list from Canada (even better, a local CPA) should offer 
>>> better advice, but the first question you probably want answered is, “Is 
>>> this taxable next year?”
>>> 
>>> That will likely influence how you record it now.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>> Adrian, it could be worse than that (in the general case). How about SS 
>> pension payments here in the US? The question "is this taxable" cannot be 
>> answered based upon the pension payment alone because it will depend on 
>> OTHER income received. Thus while you could possibly "know" (barring 
>> unexpected events) that none of it will be taxable (your estimate of other 
>> income is below X) or that 85% of it will be taxable (your estimate of other 
>> income is above Y) what you enter COULD be wrong << in the former case you 
>> ended up receiving some windfall and in the latter, suffered some economic 
>> disaster >> But SOME of us, alas, normally have an "other" income between X 
>> and Y and always have a messy calculation to perform come tax time to figure 
>> out how much of our SS was taxable.
>> 
>> Michael D Novack
> 
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