There is something wrong with GnuCash 3.5 for Windows 10.
While I haven’t decided to use it exclusively, I’ve been using it for some time
to verify my Quicken data and it has highlighted a lot of problems with the
data that I have fixed. The main issue that I have had with it and can’t switch
to it is that I find the account update (from banks & credit cards) in Quicken
a lot easier. When this issue gets corrected I will definitely switch.
As I’m going through the import script (QIF), I have found at least two issues
in release 3.5:
1. I have many securities on my portfolio (listed under the “Tradable
Commodities” of the importer). There was always a problem with it that unless
you maximized the importer window you could not see the “NEXT” button on the
bottom right of the screen. With this version there is no way to see the button.
2. To solve the above problem, I found a way to get to the next screen (by
pressing the tab multiple times), but this brings me to my next issue as my
import fails.
For the record, I have no problem when I import the same file into GC 3.1 which
has made me to fall back into that version of GnuCash.
Are there other people having the same issues with GC 3.5?
Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you.
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Today's Topics:
1. QFX vs OXR/QXF (Alton Brantley)
2. Recording Deposits in Checking (Jimmy R)
3. Re: Manual Exchange rates (Mahir)
4. Re: Recording Deposits in Checking (Michael or Penny Novack)
5. Re: Recording Deposits in Checking (Jimmy R)
6. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (D)
7. Re: Manual Exchange rates (D)
8. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (jeffrey black)
9. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (Richard)
10. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (David T.)
11. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (David T.)
12. Re: QFX vs OXR/QXF (David Carlson)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:40:41 -0400
From: Alton Brantley <alton.brant...@gmail.com>
To: rpin...@gmail.com
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
Message-ID: <f0b4a889-56be-4491-a12a-74ab3ec5c...@gmail.com>
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You should be aware that the OFX import will use the posting date only as its
import date. Your statements will list the transaction date, so your statements
and your ledger will not match directly.
For that reason, I have gone back to using CSV import format, because the CSV
import tool allows the option of choosing which date is used for the entry into
your ledger.
Note to developers: it would be wonderful to add a flag to either the ledger
account or the OFX import tool that would allow the specification of which date
to use.
Second note to developers: it would also be wonderful if the settings used in
the import tool (specifically the CSV tool) were sticky, i.e. the previously
used settings were retained between uses. I have 3 separate cards with one
bank, and have to select ?skip the first line, m-d-y format, and tag the
columns Date, Description, Debit, Credit? every time I do an import. As a
benefit to those who don?t want that feature, either a ?reset? button or a
?non-sticky? flag on the account could be added. Maybe even save the options as
account specific!
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:16:45 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jimmy R <mikromal...@yahoo.com>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] Recording Deposits in Checking
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I just curious if this is the way to record a deposit for a restaurant using
GNC
and later the tax payment. Seem like this is the way to go since you can see
what funds are available for expenses - tax liabilities
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<http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/file/t378619/2.jpg>
Jimmy
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 15:23:38 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mahir <mmah...@gmail.com>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Manual Exchange rates
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Sorry. My bad. I meant to type 1:46.7 for the first exchange rate.
If that is the case, then what is the purpose of the dates on the price
database. Shouldn't it fetch as per the date?
Thanks for you help btw.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:58:46 -0400
From: Michael or Penny Novack <stepbystepf...@comcast.net>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Recording Deposits in Checking
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On 5/15/2019 4:16 PM, Jimmy R via gnucash-user wrote:
> I just curious if this is the way to record a deposit for a restaurant using
> GNC
> and later the tax payment. Seem like this is the way to go since you can see
> what funds are available for expenses - tax liabilities
>
> <http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/file/t378619/1.jpg>
>
>
> <http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/file/t378619/2.jpg>
The first one (the deposit) is mostly correct. You would do this if you
deposit daily. Otherwise you would be debiting "undeposited cash"
(that's where you would do the split) and then a later transaction for
when you make the deposit.
The second (how you have the liability set up) is possibly not what you
want. But possibly is what you want. I do NOT know the line items you
need for your business tax reporting. Perhaps you DO need to be able to
report "total sakes tax paid". If you do not need this, if you just need
to track whether you have paid the state the "meals tax" you have
collected << in most states can be different from "sales tax" >> I would
just have a single "sales tax" account, credited for collections and
debited for payments made to the state. But I repeat, it is MANY decades
since I did tax filing for a business.
Michael D Novack
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:49:00 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jimmy R <mikromal...@yahoo.com>
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Recording Deposits in Checking
Message-ID: <1557964140856-0.p...@n4.nabble.com>
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Yes I know what you mean, I have been just used to single entry accounting
before GNC.
Just working and testing GNC on a sample.
I need to add a meals tax, so our rate is 8%...7% sales and 1% meals for
restaurants etc.
Deposits would have to be split to Income, 8%ST and 1%ST...a lot of work.
I tried other methods entering but kept getting imbalances
As for sales tax the funds are just a pass through which we are holding and
paying on behalf of the customer. Reporting to the state is monthly with a
annual renconsile.
Thanks,
Jimmy
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 06:48:08 +0530
From: D <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
To: Alton Brantley <alton.brant...@gmail.com>, "rpin...@gmail.com"
<rpin...@gmail.com>
Cc: Gnucash Users <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Alton,
On May 15, 2019, at 10:12 PM, Alton Brantley <alton.brant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You should be aware that the OFX import will use the posting date only as its
>import date. Your statements will list the transaction date, so your
>statements and your ledger will not match directly.
I don't understand. First off, in most cases debit card transactions have the
same date in the bank records as I do. The exceptions are handwritten checks,
the images of which most banks supply in their statements (so you can adjust).
Finally, if you are importing transactions from your bank, aren't you already
accepting their timing?
>For that reason, I have gone back to using CSV import format, because the CSV
>import tool allows the option of choosing which date is used for the entry
>into your ledger.
>Note to developers: it would be wonderful to add a flag to either the ledger
>account or the OFX import tool that would allow the specification of which
>date to use.
>Second note to developers: it would also be wonderful if the settings used in
>the import tool (specifically the CSV tool) were sticky, i.e. the previously
>used settings were retained between uses. I have 3 separate cards with one
>bank, and have to select ?skip the first line, m-d-y format, and tag the
>columns Date, Description, Debit, Credit? every time I do an import. As a
>benefit to those who don?t want that feature, either a ?reset? button or a
>?non-sticky? flag on the account could be added. Maybe even save the options
>as account specific!
I'm reasonably sure that the CSV importer in version 3 includes a saved
settings option. Have you tried it?
David
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 07:06:37 +0530
From: D <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
To: Mahir <mmah...@gmail.com>, Gnucash Users
<gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] Manual Exchange rates
Message-ID: <two0mqhwwtv25k12pvb67194.1557970597...@email.android.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
The price database allows a user to track, roughly speaking, the value of a
holding in a different commodity. For example, a user might purchase a stock at
10 per share. Whilst owning this stock, the price goes up to 15. The user may
wish to have a sense that the potential value of her holding has gone up by
that amount, which the price database will allow.
When you exchange one commodity for another (in your case, two currencies), the
number of units is fixed. The relative value of those other currency units will
change, which is what you will see in the chart of accounts. Most reports give
you the option of choosing which price to use. You might want to look at those
reports.
David
On May 16, 2019, at 1:55 AM, Mahir <mmah...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry. My bad. I meant to type 1:46.7 for the first exchange rate.
If that is the case, then what is the purpose of the dates on the price
database. Shouldn't it fetch as per the date?
Thanks for you help btw.
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 05:36:29 +0000
From: jeffrey black <beastmaster...@hotmail.com>
To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
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On 5/15/2019 8:18 PM, D via gnucash-user wrote:
> Alton,
>
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 10:12 PM, Alton Brantley <alton.brant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You should be aware that the OFX import will use the posting date only as
>> its import date. Your statements will list the transaction date, so your
>> statements and your ledger will not match directly.
> I don't understand. First off, in most cases debit card transactions have the
> same date in the bank records as I do. The exceptions are handwritten checks,
> the images of which most banks supply in their statements (so you can
> adjust). Finally, if you are importing transactions from your bank, aren't
> you already accepting their timing?
>
<snip>
Real time transaction dates frequently will not match the posting date
for debit/cc/ach/transfer transactions.? It depends primarily on when
the payee runs a batch total.? Some are manually batched, others are
automatically processed at a set time or number of transactions.? Banks
typically postdate charges after closing on Saturday thru Sunday until
Monday, unless Monday falls on a bank holiday (then Tuesday).
Checks by default will almost never match, typically a 2 day wait plus
however long the payee decides to wait before depositing? it (I've had
checks not show up for 3 months on statements).? The exception is if the
payee goes directly to your bank and cashes it.
Irregardless, I try to go with the transaction date, especially on
checks.? The ones I forgot to manually enter go with the date provided
by the financial institution, unless I go back and edit them to match
the date on the original receipt.
> David
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 12:33:12 -0400
From: Richard <rpin...@gmail.com>
To: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
Message-ID: <fc089750-5fd9-8a88-1669-c31a47e36...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Thanks so much for the assistance, Derek. If I understand correctly, my
Quicken 2016 exports to a proprietary file format - QXF.? GnuCash
imports the more open/robust file format - QFX. These formats are not
compatible. However, my bank does download to QFX so that should work
with GnuCash. (I misspoke in my original statement saying that my
Quicken exports to QFX - this stuff gets a bit confusing)
The trick now is to get my historical data from Quicken into GnuCash
since my Quicken export QXF can not be imported by GnuCash QFX format.
I've exported from Quicken using the QIF format and that appears to work
fine. However, when I try to import the QIF file into GnuCash, all seems
to go fine through the first 14 steps but at step 15 (QIF Import -
Start), it ends with the message "failed". At step 19 - QIF Import
Summary, I get the message "There was a problem with the import" No
additional information follows. See below.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Richard
On 5/15/2019 9:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard <rpin...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Both my Quicken 2016 and my bank institutions export to QFX files. But
>> GnuCash only offers import from OXF/QXF files. Is this a GnuCssh typo
>> or bug, i.e., misplacement of the "X" in the file extension?
> It is not a typo. There is a difference between
> OFX/QFX and QXF.
>
> OFX/QFX is the Open Financial eXchange (and a quicken variant). GnuCash
> can import this.
>
> However, QXF is the Quicken eXchange Format, which is their new,
> proprietary storage format. GnuCash cannot import QXF.
>
> Are you sure your bank is exporting QFX and not QXF? Also, could you
> get quicken to export QIF?
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> -derek
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 09:00:06 +0000 (UTC)
From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
To: "beastmaster...@hotmail.com" <beastmaster...@hotmail.com>,
"gnucash-user@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
Message-ID: <2012967939.3099617.1557997206...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Jeffrey,
Thanks for filling me in on the vagaries and nuances of bank processes.?
I stand by my assertion that if you are downloading your transactions from the
bank, then you are by default choosing to accept *their* accounting of your
money.?
If this level of difference bothers you, then you might consider manually
entering the transactions yourself, and then conduct a true reconciliation when
you receive your bank statement. Alternatively, you can change the details of
the imported transactions.?
David
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 11:08, jeffrey black<beastmaster...@hotmail.com>
wrote: On 5/15/2019 8:18 PM, D via gnucash-user wrote:
> Alton,
>
>
> On May 15, 2019, at 10:12 PM, Alton Brantley <alton.brant...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> You should be aware that the OFX import will use the posting date only as
>> its import date. Your statements will list the transaction date, so your
>> statements and your ledger will not match directly.
> I don't understand. First off, in most cases debit card transactions have the
> same date in the bank records as I do. The exceptions are handwritten checks,
> the images of which most banks supply in their statements (so you can
> adjust). Finally, if you are importing transactions from your bank, aren't
> you already accepting their timing?
>
<snip>
Real time transaction dates frequently will not match the posting date
for debit/cc/ach/transfer transactions.? It depends primarily on when
the payee runs a batch total.? Some are manually batched, others are
automatically processed at a set time or number of transactions.? Banks
typically postdate charges after closing on Saturday thru Sunday until
Monday, unless Monday falls on a bank holiday (then Tuesday).
Checks by default will almost never match, typically a 2 day wait plus
however long the payee decides to wait before depositing? it (I've had
checks not show up for 3 months on statements).? The exception is if the
payee goes directly to your bank and cashes it.
Irregardless, I try to go with the transaction date, especially on
checks.? The ones I forgot to manually enter go with the date provided
by the financial institution, unless I go back and edit them to match
the date on the original receipt.
> David
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 09:15:38 +0000 (UTC)
From: "David T." <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
To: "rpin...@gmail.com" <rpin...@gmail.com>, Derek Atkins
<de...@ihtfp.com>
Cc: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" <gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
The most common issue that crops up with importing QIF data seems to be date
formatting, such as a date that is in dd-mm-yyyy format (when the rest of the
file is mm-dd-yyyy format).?
Unfortunately, there really isn't any easy way to locate such errors, short of
scanning through the source file for the errors (remember that QIF is a text
file). Some have had success by breaking the file into pieces to narrow down
the error.?
David
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 14:15, Richard<rpin...@gmail.com> wrote: Thanks so
much for the assistance, Derek. If I understand correctly, my
Quicken 2016 exports to a proprietary file format - QXF.? GnuCash
imports the more open/robust file format - QFX. These formats are not
compatible. However, my bank does download to QFX so that should work
with GnuCash. (I misspoke in my original statement saying that my
Quicken exports to QFX - this stuff gets a bit confusing)
The trick now is to get my historical data from Quicken into GnuCash
since my Quicken export QXF can not be imported by GnuCash QFX format.
I've exported from Quicken using the QIF format and that appears to work
fine. However, when I try to import the QIF file into GnuCash, all seems
to go fine through the first 14 steps but at step 15 (QIF Import -
Start), it ends with the message "failed". At step 19 - QIF Import
Summary, I get the message "There was a problem with the import" No
additional information follows. See below.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Richard
On 5/15/2019 9:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Richard <rpin...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Both my Quicken 2016 and my bank institutions export to QFX files. But
>> GnuCash only offers import from OXF/QXF files. Is this a GnuCssh typo
>> or bug, i.e., misplacement of the "X" in the file extension?
> It is not a typo.? There is a difference between
> OFX/QFX and QXF.
>
> OFX/QFX is the Open Financial eXchange (and a quicken variant).? GnuCash
> can import this.
>
> However, QXF is the Quicken eXchange Format, which is their new,
> proprietary storage format.? GnuCash cannot import QXF.
>
> Are you sure your bank is exporting QFX and not QXF?? Also, could you
> get quicken to export QIF?
>
> Hope this helps,
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard
>> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
>> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> -derek
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 16 May 2019 06:44:29 -0500
From: David Carlson <david.carlson....@gmail.com>
To: "sunfis...@yahoo.com" <sunfis...@yahoo.com>
Cc: "rpin...@gmail.com" <rpin...@gmail.com>, Derek Atkins
<de...@ihtfp.com>, "gnucash-user@gnucash.org"
<gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
Subject: Re: [GNC] QFX vs OXR/QXF
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
To David T's comment I would add that QIF format is best broken down before
the export rather than after, as there are a few headers at the beginning
that help to define which accounts are included in each file. It is best
to let Quicken build the smaller files.
David Carlson
On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:18 AM David T. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> The most common issue that crops up with importing QIF data seems to be
> date formatting, such as a date that is in dd-mm-yyyy format (when the rest
> of the file is mm-dd-yyyy format).
>
> Unfortunately, there really isn't any easy way to locate such errors,
> short of scanning through the source file for the errors (remember that QIF
> is a text file). Some have had success by breaking the file into pieces to
> narrow down the error.
>
> David
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 14:15, Richard<rpin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks so much for the assistance, Derek. If I understand correctly, my
> Quicken 2016 exports to a proprietary file format - QXF. GnuCash
> imports the more open/robust file format - QFX. These formats are not
> compatible. However, my bank does download to QFX so that should work
> with GnuCash. (I misspoke in my original statement saying that my
> Quicken exports to QFX - this stuff gets a bit confusing)
>
> The trick now is to get my historical data from Quicken into GnuCash
> since my Quicken export QXF can not be imported by GnuCash QFX format.
>
> I've exported from Quicken using the QIF format and that appears to work
> fine. However, when I try to import the QIF file into GnuCash, all seems
> to go fine through the first 14 steps but at step 15 (QIF Import -
> Start), it ends with the message "failed". At step 19 - QIF Import
> Summary, I get the message "There was a problem with the import" No
> additional information follows. See below.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 5/15/2019 9:27 AM, Derek Atkins wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Richard <rpin...@gmail.com> writes:
> >
> >> Both my Quicken 2016 and my bank institutions export to QFX files. But
> >> GnuCash only offers import from OXF/QXF files. Is this a GnuCssh typo
> >> or bug, i.e., misplacement of the "X" in the file extension?
> > It is not a typo. There is a difference between
> > OFX/QFX and QXF.
> >
> > OFX/QFX is the Open Financial eXchange (and a quicken variant). GnuCash
> > can import this.
> >
> > However, QXF is the Quicken eXchange Format, which is their new,
> > proprietary storage format. GnuCash cannot import QXF.
> >
> > Are you sure your bank is exporting QFX and not QXF? Also, could you
> > get quicken to export QIF?
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Richard
> >> Please remember to CC this list on all your replies.
> >> You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
> > -derek
> >
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