Kusomoto-san,

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> On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:38 AM, KUSUMOTO Norio <kusum...@na.rim.or.jp> wrote:
> 
> Thank you for your replay, John!
> 
> 
> (It is very difficult to draw attention to the issue of internationalization 
> of text input. However, if you can imagine the practicality of accounting 
> software that can not input virtually non-numeric text without copying and 
> pasting from other applications, you will understand our disappointment.)
> 
> 
> 
>> 2020/01/02 13:21、John Ralls <jra...@ceridwen.us>のメール:
>> 
>> The known problem with Japanese and Chinese IMs is documented at 
>> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797264. there's a work-around, 
>> though with Japanese it's a bit cumbersome than with Chinese especially on a 
>> desktop where you have to move your hands to get to the mouse or trackpad: 
>> Finish typing your string with a space, which may bring up a final selection 
>> box. Double-click on the selection in the box if it does. Regardless then 
>> double click in the field that you're filling in before tabbing to or 
>> clicking in another field. In Chinese one need simply end the string with a 
>> space bar before tabbing to the next field.
> 
> 
> When we use IM to input Japanese, we use the cursor keys to specify where to 
> separate 
> the translations. Mouse actions cannot substitute for these actions.

Is that because the cursor-key gestures are an ingrained part of typing or is 
there something about the operation of the IM that I'm missing?

Regardless, I understand that having to use the mouse when typing is 
undesirable, I offered it only as a workaround until I find time to work on 
this some more. 


> 
> 
>> I just tried press-and-hold in Apple Mail with the Hiragana IM to see what's 
>> supposed to happen. Holding a letter key down does raise a window, but only 
>> after the key starts repeating. The same effect is achieved by typing the 
>> letter twice, so I don't think that there's a feature there.
> 
> You can select a variation of characters by long pressing only when you use 
> the 'U.S.' 
> keyboard, not when you select Hiragana IM.
> I gave this example because I wanted to say that it is not a limited issue 
> when using 
> a language to input using IM, such as Japanese.

A long keypress just types the letter when I use the US keyboard. 

> 
> 
> 
>> The underlying problem is due to difficulty integrating IMs with our 
>> specialized tab, return, and arrow key handling for deciding when to commit 
>> transactions, look for accounts, and process calculations.
> 
> I worked on NSTextInputClient support for a programming language development 
> environment 
> last year. (It's not written in C.) It can do tab-driven completion, have the 
> same key 
> combinations as IM, or perform return based execution. I implemented it to 
> suppress 
> passing events to the IDE when I was interacting with IM.
> 
> I'm not familiar with the internationalization of GTK, but I think there 
> should be a way 
> to deal with similar situations because they should be a variety of 
> applications.

The Gtk input module is 
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/blob/gtk-3-24/modules/input/imquartz.c and 
it mostly wraps NSTextInputClient. It hasn't been updated in a few years and so 
it has gotten a little out of sync with Apple's code, but the problem with tab, 
return, and arrow keys is GnuCash's fault: For the most part I think that the 
IM works correctly except in the register, but you're a far better judge of 
that than I am. Does it work the way you expect in dialog boxes?

Regards,
John Ralls

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