By  fussing with the ipmt formula I was able to accommodate a regular extra payment.  I went into Libre Office to recalculate the number of months using the larger monthly payment.  Then adjusted the number of payments to an integer and recalculated the required monthly payment.

The wizard will setup the scheduled transactions and will use the ipmt function to generate the interest amount.

ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i : 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )

The only thing you can't mess with in the function is the 'i' which is the month number for which this entry is being calculate.  The fields are separated by colon (:).  Here are the entries as I understand them:

Field 1:  in my case .04490 / 12.00.  This is the interest rate per period.  In my case I have an annual 4.49%.

Field 2:  The 'i' that I don't know how GnC calculates it.  In some cases I have thought it was a month or so off but haven't tried to add or subtract an offset value to see if that is possible.

Field 3:  The number of payments to be made.  If you divide the annual interest by 12 then you are doing this monthly and this would be the number of months.  If you want bi-weekly or semi-monthly you will need to adjust both the first field and the count in this field.

Field 4:  The loan amount.  In this case I threw away the old loan schedule in GnC and created a new one to shorten my loan down to 20 years remaining (I think it was at 25 or 27 years).  So this would be the loan balance at the time you started making extra payments.

Field 5:  The ending value of the loan.  Most of the time this is zero as you plan to pay everything off.  If you have a balloon payment at the end, then enter the balloon amount here.

Field 6:  It is called 'type'.  I think this is whether the interest is pre-paid or post-paid.  The standard appears to be '0'.   I suspect the other type is '1' but could not determine based on a quick inspection of fin.scm

Note that certain payment values will result in a fractional number of payments.  I haven't tried to see if the function will work with a non-integer value for the total number of payments. So if you insist on paying an even (full) amount (non-fractional), you may not be able to generate the exact interest according to your bank.  I've been lucky with the above as I accepted a monthly payment that included pennies.

Setting up the scheduled transaction -- in my case I copied the old loan scheduled entries.  Then modified them to fit the new circumstances.

On the split for the bank payout amount, I hard carded the actual payment to be made: (326.97 in my case).

On the split for the interest amount I entered the function: ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i : 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )

On the split for the principal amount I entered the payment minus interest:  326.97 - ipmt( .04490 / 12.00 : i : 240.00 : 51,630.34 : 0 : 0 )

If I rounded my payment up to $327.00 then the interest amount would slowly diverge from what the bank generates.  But, as it now is, the bank will occasionally post the payment a day or so later than I predicted and the interest amount will be off.

Now, this is all predicated on the fact that you will be making the same payment each time and not varying it each month.  It also based on getting the number of payments to be non-fractional.

Note that the loan wizard doesn't record your monthly payment. Instead it used the ppmt function (with same fields as the ipmt function).

Hope this helps.  Go Forth and experiment.  [although fin.scm is written in Scheme and not Forth]



On 2/18/22 12:13, D. via gnucash-user wrote:
I manually edit each mortgage entry as well. I use the mortgage statements to 
reconcile the final amounts.

I mean, there aren't that many transactions to consider. I don't see this as 
much of a burden.

David


-------- Original Message --------
From: Derek Atkins <de...@ihtfp.com>
Sent: Fri Feb 18 14:50:22 EST 2022
To: Alan Schold <asch...@q.com>
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] mortgage calculator

HI,

On Fri, February 18, 2022 2:42 pm, Alan Schold via gnucash-user wrote:
Is there a way to get the mortgage repayment module to account for
regular extra monthly payments? Now the calculations proceed as if I'm
just paying the basic mortgage amount, and I have to recalculate the
principal balance each month. The calculator is only right once!
Sorry, no.

This is a long-standing limitation of the calculator (and trust me, it's
been hitting me forever!!).

The MAIN issue is the lack of a "GetBalanceAsOfDate()" function usable
within the scheduled transaction (SX) functions, and tied into the SX
system where it can supply the date as part of the SX firing methods.
Adding it is, unfortunately, not as straightforward as you would think,
which is why nobody has done it, yet.

Me, I just periodically go through and update the P/I splits from my
mortgage and loan statements.

Sorry,

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