Hi, I've been playing some 3-stone 13x13 games recently, to pass some time. I've noticed that it quite frequently approachs my 3-3 opening move on the first line. eg see below. Obviously there's some randomness, but even if it doesn't play this move, it shows up in the top-ten moves.
This is the gnugo binary that comes with debian, should you care - I've not tested on latest, but it was also happening on 3.4 that came on cygwin. Also, I've noticed that it often makes a monkey jump, but then fails to defend the stone afterwards. I don't have a test case for that one one - I'll send one along next time I notice it. dd -- Dave Denholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.esmertec.com $ gnugo --boardsize 13 --handicap 3 --color white -t GNU Go 3.6 Copyright 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc. See http://www.gnu.org/software/gnugo/ or contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] for information about GNU Go. GNU Go comes with NO WARRANTY to the extent permitted by law. This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation - version 2. For more information about these matters, see the files named COPYING. Beginning ASCII mode game. Board Size: 13 Handicap 3 Komi: 0.0 Move Number: 0 To Move: white Computer player: Black White (O) has captured 0 pieces Black (X) has captured 0 pieces A B C D E F G H J K L M N 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 10 . . . X . . + . . X . . . 10 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . . X . . + . . + . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 A B C D E F G H J K L M N white(1): L3 your move: L3 White (O) has captured 0 pieces Black (X) has captured 0 pieces A B C D E F G H J K L M N 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 10 . . . X . . + . . X . . . 10 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . . X . . + . . + . . . 4 3 . . . . . . . . . .(O). . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 A B C D E F G H J K L M N GNU Go is thinking... Score estimate: W 6.00 Game status = 0.21 (0.0 = start, 1.0 = game over) Fuseki database move at D7 with relative weight 5, pattern Fuseki2082+0 Fuseki database move at G10 with relative weight 5, pattern Fuseki2082+6 Fuseki database move at L8 with relative weight 4, pattern Fuseki2083+0 Fuseki database move at F3 with relative weight 4, pattern Fuseki2083+6 Fuseki database move at K4 with relative weight 3, pattern Fuseki2084+0 Fuseki database move at K4 with relative weight 3, pattern Fuseki2084+6 Fuseki database move at G3 with relative weight 3, pattern Fuseki2085+0 Fuseki database move at L7 with relative weight 3, pattern Fuseki2085+6 Fuseki database move at L5 with relative weight 2, pattern Fuseki2086+0 Fuseki database move at J3 with relative weight 2, pattern Fuseki2086+6 Fuseki database move at K7 with relative weight 2, pattern Fuseki2087+0 Fuseki database move at G4 with relative weight 2, pattern Fuseki2087+6 Fuseki database move at N4 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2088+0 Fuseki database move at K1 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2088+6 Fuseki database move at F9 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2089+0 Fuseki database move at E8 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2089+6 Fuseki database move at L6 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2090+0 Fuseki database move at H3 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2090+6 Fuseki database move at G11 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2091+0 Fuseki database move at C7 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2091+6 Fuseki database move at L4 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2092+0 Fuseki database move at K3 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2092+6 Fuseki database move at E3 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2093+0 Fuseki database move at L9 with relative weight 1, pattern Fuseki2093+6 Fuseki Player suggests N4 with value 75 Pattern matcher is looking for move reasons for black! pattern 'EB2002'+1 matched at F9 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2002'+5 matched at E8 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+1 matched at F10 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+5 matched at D8 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'Temp9'+1 matched at C7 pattern 'Temp9'+5 matched at G11 pattern 'EB2002'+2 matched at J8 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2002'+6 matched at H9 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+2 matched at K8 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+6 matched at H10 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB101'+1 matched at J6 ...expands moyo ...shape value -1.00 pattern 'CB103'+1 matched at J7 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB103'+6 matched at L7 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB104'+0 matched at K7 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB105'+6 matched at L8 ...expands moyo pattern 'Temp9'+2 matched at G11 pattern 'EB2002'+0 matched at E6 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2002'+4 matched at F5 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+0 matched at D6 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'EB2003'+4 matched at F4 ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB101'+5 matched at H5 ...expands moyo ...shape value -1.00 pattern 'CB103'+0 matched at G3 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB103'+5 matched at G5 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB104'+3 matched at G4 ...expands moyo ...shape value -3.00 pattern 'CB105'+0 matched at F3 ...expands moyo pattern 'Temp9'+4 matched at C7 pattern 'JS1'+2 matched at K4 ...less urgent joseki move ...expands territory ...expands moyo ...minimum move value 16.42 (shape 0.00) pattern 'F16a'+3 matched at K4 ...expands moyo ...strategical attack on L3 ...less urgent joseki move ...expands territory ...expands moyo ...minimum move value 16.59 (shape 1.00) pattern 'F110'+1 matched at C8 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.84 (shape -1.00) pattern 'F110'+5 matched at F11 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.84 (shape -1.00) pattern 'F411'+1 matched at D7 ...expands moyo ...strategical defense of D10 ...strategical defense of D4 ...shape value -2.00 pattern 'F420'+1 matched at F11 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F420'+5 matched at C8 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F109'+2 matched at L8 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F109b'+2 matched at L8 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F110'+2 matched at H11 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.84 (shape -1.00) pattern 'F410d'+6 matched at L7 ...expands territory ...strategical defense of K10 ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.95 (shape 0.00) pattern 'F411'+2 matched at G10 ...expands moyo ...strategical defense of K10 ...strategical defense of D10 ...shape value -2.00 pattern 'F420'+2 matched at L8 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F109'+4 matched at F3 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F109b'+4 matched at F3 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) pattern 'F110'+4 matched at C6 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.84 (shape -1.00) pattern 'F410d'+0 matched at G3 ...expands territory ...strategical defense of D4 ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.95 (shape 0.00) pattern 'F420'+4 matched at F3 ...expands moyo ...minor joseki move ...minimum move value 10.73 (shape -2.00) looking for combination attacks ... Looking for additional attack and defense moves. Trying moves ... Trying to upgrade strategical attack and defense moves. Trying vital eye moves as owl attacks. Move reasons: Move at C6 expands moyo Move at C7 is an antisuji Move at C7 strategically or tactically unsafe Move at C8 expands moyo Move at D7 is an antisuji Move at D7 expands moyo Move at D7 strategically defends D10 Move at D7 strategically defends D4 Move at F3 expands moyo Move at F11 expands moyo Move at G3 expands moyo Move at G3 expands territory Move at G3 strategically defends D4 Move at G4 expands moyo Move at G5 expands moyo Move at G10 is an antisuji Move at G10 expands moyo Move at G10 strategically defends K10 Move at G10 strategically defends D10 Move at G11 is an antisuji Move at G11 strategically or tactically unsafe Move at H5 expands moyo Move at H11 expands moyo Move at J6 expands moyo Move at J7 expands moyo Move at K4 expands territory Move at K4 expands moyo Move at K4 strategically attacks L3 Move at K7 expands moyo Move at L7 expands moyo Move at L7 expands territory Move at L7 strategically defends K10 Move at L8 expands moyo Move valuation: C6: 14.45 - change in territory C6: 9.15 - total followup value, added 9.15 as territorial followup C6: 4.57 - added due to followup (9.15) and reverse followup values (0.00) Move generation values C6 to 19.02 C8: 15.97 - change in territory C8: 9.35 - total followup value, added 9.35 as territorial followup C8: 4.68 - added due to followup (9.35) and reverse followup values (0.00) Move generation values C8 to 20.64 E3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values E3 to 74.00 E8: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values E8 to 74.00 F3: 14.44 - change in territory F3: 7.17 - total followup value, added 7.17 as territorial followup F3: 3.58 - added due to followup (7.17) and reverse followup values (0.00) F3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values F3 to 74.00 F9: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values F9 to 74.00 F11: 15.97 - change in territory F11: 9.35 - total followup value, added 9.35 as territorial followup F11: 4.68 - added due to followup (9.35) and reverse followup values (0.00) Move generation values F11 to 20.64 G3: 14.56 - change in territory G3: 5.01 - strategic effect on D4 G3: 6.21 - total followup value, added 6.21 as territorial followup G3: 3.10 - added due to followup (6.21) and reverse followup values (0.00) G3: -3.09 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) G3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values G3 to 74.00 G4: 13.75 - change in territory G4: 7.95 - total followup value, added 7.95 as territorial followup G4: 3.98 - added due to followup (7.95) and reverse followup values (0.00) G4: -2.41 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) G4: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values G4 to 74.00 G5: 13.46 - change in territory G5: 9.35 - total followup value, added 9.35 as territorial followup G5: 4.67 - added due to followup (9.35) and reverse followup values (0.00) G5: -2.47 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) Move generation values G5 to 15.66 H3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values H3 to 74.00 H5: 13.48 - change in territory H5: 8.74 - total followup value, added 8.74 as territorial followup H5: 4.37 - added due to followup (8.74) and reverse followup values (0.00) H5: -0.85 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -1.00(1), shape factor 0.952) Move generation values H5 to 16.99 H11: 14.45 - change in territory H11: 9.15 - total followup value, added 9.15 as territorial followup H11: 4.57 - added due to followup (9.15) and reverse followup values (0.00) Move generation values H11 to 19.02 J3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values J3 to 74.00 J6: 13.48 - change in territory J6: 8.74 - total followup value, added 8.74 as territorial followup J6: 4.37 - added due to followup (8.74) and reverse followup values (0.00) J6: -0.85 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -1.00(1), shape factor 0.952) Move generation values J6 to 16.99 J7: 13.46 - change in territory J7: 9.35 - total followup value, added 9.35 as territorial followup J7: 4.67 - added due to followup (9.35) and reverse followup values (0.00) J7: -2.47 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) Move generation values J7 to 15.66 K1: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values K1 to 74.00 K3: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values K3 to 74.00 K4: 5.99 - change in territory K4: 4.16 - strategic effect on L3 K4: 13.52 - total followup value, added 13.52 as territorial followup K4: 6.76 - added due to followup (13.52) and reverse followup values (0.00) K4: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values K4 to 74.00 K7: 13.75 - change in territory K7: 7.95 - total followup value, added 7.95 as territorial followup K7: 3.98 - added due to followup (7.95) and reverse followup values (0.00) K7: -2.41 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) K7: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values K7 to 74.00 L4: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L4 to 74.00 L5: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L5 to 74.00 L6: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L6 to 74.00 L7: 14.56 - change in territory L7: 5.01 - strategic effect on K10 L7: 6.21 - total followup value, added 6.21 as territorial followup L7: 3.10 - added due to followup (6.21) and reverse followup values (0.00) L7: -3.09 - shape (shape values +0.00(0) -3.00(1), shape factor 0.864) L7: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L7 to 74.00 L8: 14.44 - change in territory L8: 7.17 - total followup value, added 7.17 as territorial followup L8: 3.58 - added due to followup (7.17) and reverse followup values (0.00) L8: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L8 to 74.00 L9: 74.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values L9 to 74.00 N4: 75.00 - minimum accepted value Move generation values N4 to 75.00 Top moves: 1. N4 75.01 2. L8 74.01 3. E8 74.01 4. F3 74.01 5. K3 74.01 6. G3 74.01 7. L5 74.01 8. L7 74.01 9. K1 74.01 10. K4 74.01 Checking safety of a black move at N4 Move generation likes N4 with value 75.01 genmove() recommends N4 with value 75.01 black(2): N4 White (O) has captured 0 pieces Black (X) has captured 0 pieces A B C D E F G H J K L M N 13 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13 12 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 12 11 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11 10 . . . X . . + . . X . . . 10 9 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9 8 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8 7 . . . + . . + . . + . . . 7 6 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6 5 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 5 4 . . . X . . + . . + . .(X) 4 3 . . . . . . . . . . O . . 3 2 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2 1 . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1 A B C D E F G H J K L M N white(3): Thanks! for playing GNU Go. _______________________________________________ gnugo-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnugo-devel

