"Robert J. Hansen" <r...@sixdemonbag.org> writes: > On 3/22/2011 6:11 PM, Jerome Baum wrote: >> So, if the goverment alleges I have something to hide, then it is clear >> that I do? Boy am I happy I don't live in the U.S. > > This is cheap ad-hominem. I said nothing of the sort. If the > government *alleges* that you *committed a crime*, the government needs > to enter into evidence *how you committed that crime*.
>>> And in the context of that conversation it was clear that there was, in >>> fact, something illegal to hide. Quoting: "if the government alleges, >>> 'this person used OpenPGP to cover up the crime...'" Let's rephrase what you said: "From the government alleging 'this person used a OpenPGP to hide evidence of his crime' it was clear that there was, in fact, evidence of his crime." One step further: "From the government alleging 'this person used OpenPGP to hide evidence of his crime' it was clear that he committed the crime." And another step: "From the government alleging something, it was clear that he committed the crime." Where were you involved? Quoting dictionary.reference.com: ad hominem: "attacking an opponent's character rather than answering his argument." > If the crime is evidence spoilation, then yes, the government can enter > into evidence the fact you possessed the tools required to spoil > evidence. It doesn't mean you're guilty of evidence spoilation: it only > means the jury might find that fact to be interesting and relevant, and > for that reason it should be presented to them. > > If I'm accused of stabbing someone to death, the government gets to > enter into evidence the fact I own a knife exactly like the one they > allege was used to murder someone. This is no different. > > I honestly do not understand where you're coming from. It seems as if > you're deliberately trying to twist around what I'm saying. I guess we are talking about different trials. I am talking about a trial pertaining to the original crime (child abuse), into which "he has gpg installed" was entered as evidence, under the argument that "he might have encrypted his pictures with gpg -- we don't have the picture, but he might have done this". -- PGP: A0E4 B2D4 94E6 20EE 85BA E45B 63E4 2BD8 C58C 753A PGP: 2C23 EBFF DF1A 840D 2351 F5F5 F25B A03F 2152 36DA
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