On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:22:43 +0100 Peter Lebbing articulated: > On 31/01/12 00:09, John Clizbe wrote: > > On the Netiquette part of this thread, I too set a Reply-To header > > that seems at least one person regularly ignores. Please don't CC > > me on list replies. One copy is enough. > > Well, I don't know if you refer to me, my apologies if so. I know how > that comes about when /I/ reply to a mail you write. > > Thunderbird doesn't show me your Reply-To: header. Not even if I > press "View->Headers->All"! It took me some time to find the > circumstances under which this happens. It turns out that if To: and > Reply-To: have the same e-mail address, Reply-To: is silently > dropped. And this is exactly the case with your messages. > > I just press the button "reply all", and Thunderbird addresses a CC: > to you. Remember I haven't seen your Reply-To header, so I can't take > a decision on what it means myself, only Thunderbird gets to do that. > > If this dropping of Reply-To: is a bug, and fixed, then hopefully > I'll notice it and remove a CC: if the person I'm responding to has > "Reply-To: gnupg-users..." set. But it's still something that can > easily be overlooked.
The Thunderbird bug was fixed I thought awhile ago. I did not notice the version of Thunderbird that you are employing. You could try the latest version, V.9.0.1 and see if that corrects the problem. > If I press "reply to list", even people who would want a CC: when I > reply to their message will not get one. I was under the impression > "reply to all" was the convention here on gnupg-users. Isn't it? This is an "OPT-IN"list. Some lists, like FreeBSD are open, but not this one. Therefore, the use of a CC is neither required, nor in many instances, appreciate. In actuality, it serves no purpose at all on an "OPT-IN" mailing list. > I read Dan J Bernsteins words on Reply-To and his propositions, > Mail-Followup-To etcetera. I'm going to be blunt here: it's a pity > DJB came up with these, because I think a less controversial person > would have much more chance of getting it into an RFC. I don't want > to spark a pro- and contra-DJB discussion here, so please take a few > breaths before you reply. > There should be mail headers for: > - List customs: reply all/reply list > - Personal preferences overriding list customs: do you want CC:'s? The net is littered with ideas from people who were well liked and respected whose ideas never made it into an RFC. The "Reply-To" works well for those who use it. Unfortunately, some MUA's have just never gotten their head around the concept. Filing BUG reports and basically making yourself a "pain in the ass" to the developers of those applications can work wonders. > Either that, or we should all exclusively use Usenet ;). Do away with > the concept of mailing list altogether. I have used Usenet for many years. Like any other form of communications, it has its advantages and drawbacks. > PS: I'm running Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; > rv:1.9.2.24) Gecko/20111114 Icedove/3.1.16, as you can see in the > headers ;). On Debian wheezy. -- Jerry ♔ Disclaimer: off-list followups get on-list replies or get ignored. Please do not ignore the Reply-To header. __________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Gnupg-users mailing list Gnupg-users@gnupg.org http://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users