> Am 09.04.2017 um 20:30 schrieb Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.email>:
> 
> On 04/09/2017 11:01 AM, Mike Gerwitz wrote:
>> If I know a threat exists, I'm going to evaluate my threat model and
>> decide whether or not it is worth my time to mitigate it; whether I can
>> hope to mitigate it; and whether attempting to do so is going to put me
>> at even more risk for some other threat.
> 
> You and Rainer have gone on at great length about the part of the threat 
> model equation dealing with the attacker. However, you don't seem to take 
> into account the other part of the equation, what you are protecting.
> 
> The overwhelming number of PGP users simply use it because it's cool. They 
> don't have anything approaching significant secrets to protect, it's just fun 
> to do cryptography. There is nothing wrong with that, in and of itself. 
> (Note, I acknowledge that there are people for whom signatures and encryption 
> actually matter.)
> 
> There is not even anything wrong with the idea that using smart cards, 
> air-gapped computers, detached signing subkeys, etc. *can* be part of that 
> fun. The concern is that when folks tell the new users that they are 
> *required*, that becomes problematic for a couple of reasons. First, it gives 
> a false impression of how secure the "basic" version of GnuPG is in the first 
> place. Perhaps more importantly, it places a much higher barrier to entry for 
> new users; for no measurable ROI.
> 
> So if folks want to imagine that you live in a Bond film, and that SPECTRE is 
> out to get you, so be it. I don't begrudge you that fantasy. But when it 
> comes to offering advice to new users, please be realistic about what they 
> are actually going to benefit from.

I know of PGP-based WoT used in security-aware networks of sysadmins, CERTs 
etc. I would have guessed that a significant part of the audience of this list 
are professional/experienced/involved admins or developers. But let me know why 
the majority of users are not.

- Rainer


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