By the way, I just *love* my iPhone’s desire to help me with words it thinks 
I’ve misspelled.  :)

-Ryan McGinnis
https://bigstormpicture.com
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On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 7:10 AM, Ryan McGinnis <r...@digicana.com> wrote:

> Right, I probably wasn’t being very clear with what I meant. What I’m saying 
> is that people who use PGP at the moment are rather tech savvy, lady over 
> from the legacy of the fact that for most of PGP’s existence a user had to be 
> tech savvy to even get PGP backed out of the metaphorical garage. Because of 
> this, applications that use PGP all seem designed to make that crowd happy. 
> But making that crowd happy necessarily excludes the much larger crowd that 
> would never need, consider, or even understand aid-gapping.
> 

> Signal went the other way. Build a verifiably secure communications platform 
> so easy that literally anyone can figure it out. Make it hard to impossible 
> to screw up. Most of the people who implemented secure whisper adopted this 
> philosophy. No, it’s not federated, but in terms of real-world impact it 
> actually has one because people actually use it to communicate.
> 

> -Ryan McGinnis
> https://bigstormpicture.com
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> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 3:06 AM, Peter Lebbing pe...@digitalbrains.com wrote:
> 

> > On 01/07/2019 23:55, Ryan McGinnis via Gnupg-users wrote:
> > 

> > > Null modem transfer of your messages? Yikes. To me that’s the issue
> > > with PGP in general as it relates to secure communications
> > 

> > None of any of the alternatives to OpenPGP you mention solve the issue
> > that a secure offline system sets out to solve. They are orthogonal
> > issues.
> > Alternatives to OpenPGP have the same need or lack of need of a secure
> > offline system as OpenPGP itself. The only difference I can think of
> > would be in the number of messages disclosed or the range of signatures
> > that could be faked by a compromise, not the base premise of disclosure
> > and impersonation.
> > You might well reasonably object to the UX of OpenPGP. Just not on the
> > ground that there are people who think about offline secure systems,
> > that makes no sense to me. The two are unrelated. The only relation I
> > can think of is that people who think about deploying offline secure
> > systems probably aren't quickly scared off by an overly complicated
> > system ;-).
> > Cheers,
> > Peter.
> > 

> > I use the GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG) in combination with Enigmail.
> > You can send me encrypted mail if you want some privacy.
> > My key is available at http://digitalbrains.com/2012/openpgp-key-peter

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