On 6/1/25 09:54, Richard Stoughton via Gnupg-users wrote:
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So we'll try another approach to preserve the security level of M on L:

H injects a secret nonce into a build run on M. M uses the nonce to
create a MAC for each artifact it creates. M pushes the MACs along
with the artifacts to L.

To sign an artifact H fetches the artifact and the corresponding MAC
to its local file system. Then H verifies the MAC using the secret
nonce it has previously injected into the build on M. If the MAC is
valid then H signs the artifact using gpg. Then H pushes the signature
to L.

A simple variation:  the trusted build operator (someone approves the use of the keys stored on H...) generates an emphemeral keypair on a secure workstation (perhaps H itself?); the private key is injected into M and the public key is given to H as part of the process to approve signing build artifacts.  (Presumably, the ephemeral public key ends up in an audit log somewhere while the ephemeral private key is destroyed when M shuts down.)

To sign an artifact, H fetches the artifact and the corresponding build signature to its local filesystem.  Then H verifies M's signature using the ephemeral public key created for that specific build.  If the signature is valid, H signs the artifact using its secure keys and pushes the signature to L, where it is again verified.

This can be done without adding additional software to H aside from scripts to drive the process:  gpgv can be used to verify the build signatures.  Using symmetric MACs would require additional software, but H already needs GPG for its basic job.

The only major problem with this I see is fundamental to this architecture: a compromised M can generate backdoored artifacts and sign them as if they were legitimate, with H and L none the wiser. Since you have mentioned that M is an ephemeral cloud instance, I presume that a compromise of your hosting provider is outside of your threat model.

-- Jacob

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