Hi Paul,

Maybe I should take the GNUStep version you produce, when it is ready, and 
substitute OS X screen shots for a separate OS X version. It might be too much 
to have both sets of images in one manual. Each could go in the appropriate 
trunk.

What do you think?

Warm regards.

david
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On Apr 30, 2011, at 8:01 PM, Paul Tyson wrote:

> OK, I will aim to update all images and descriptions with what I see in
> the gnustep Monet application.
> 
> If someone can provide screenshots from the OS X application, I can
> include those as well (or, they could be added later).  In the docbook
> source, we can specify the platform for each image, which will allow
> generation of separate manuals for gnustep and osx if desired. 
> 
> Regards,
> --Paul
> 
> On Sat, 2011-04-30 at 12:57 -0700, David Hill wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>> 
>> 
>> Sorry for the delay in responding. The end of April is not a good time
>> for dealing with anything important other than Canadian income tax!!
>> 
>> On Apr 27, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Paul Tyson wrote:
>> 
>>> What started as an attempt to correct a few HTML formatting issues
>>> in the Monet manual turned into a conversion of the manual to
>>> Docbook xml.
>> 
>> 
>> A task that is much appreciated.
>> 
>>> I also took the opportunity to merge the separate documents for
>>> adding postures and rules into the main manual.  I created several
>>> thumbnail images that were missing from svn.  These are not the best
>>> quality, since I just scaled down the full-size images, and I am not
>>> a graphics expert.
>>> 
>>> One of the reasons I wanted to get the manual in shape is to help me
>>> study the gnustep Monet application, but right off I find
>>> discrepancies between the the manual and the application.  As I
>>> understand it: 1) the manual describes the NeXT version of the
>>> application; 2) several changes were made in porting to OS X; and 3)
>>> possibly other changes were made in the gnustep version.
>>> 
>>> My question is, can I take the existing gnustep Monet application as
>>> the desired state?
>> 
>> 
>> It would be best to treat the existing Mac OS X version as definitive,
>> but the GNUStep version is supposed to be logically the same, although
>> -- naturally -- the GNUStep version does not use the Aqua interface.
>> Ultimately, a separate manual is required for each of GNUStep and Mac
>> OS X, where the text should be pretty well the same, but the screen
>> shots differ.
>> 
>>> If so, I can modify the manual to match the current state of the
>>> application.
>> 
>> 
>> That would be a perfectly reasonable approach.
>> 
>>> There are some windows that appear to be design improvements over
>>> the screenshots in the manual, but I don't want to assume anything
>>> without guidance from experts in the group.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Monet was improved during the port. The GNUStep version is the
>> improved version.
>> 
>>> 
>>> In other words, would I go too far wrong by updating the manual to
>>> replace existing screenshots with new ones from the current gnustep
>>> Monet application (and updating the descriptions to match)?
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You would be doing exactly the right thing.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have no way of knowing how gnustep Monet diverges from the OS X
>>> version.  It would be possible to tag the variants in the manual, so
>>> that you could either produce platform-specific versions of the
>>> manual, or a combined version with the platform-specific differences
>>> identified.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> As noted, apart from the screen shots, the Mac OS X version and
>> GNUStep versions are supposed to be identical. The existing Monet
>> manual uses screen shots taken directly from a NeXT and represent the
>> original version which stays for the NeXT (anyone still running a NeXT
>> apart from me :-), but is superseded for the ported versions where the
>> operations are ordered and controlled in a slightly different,
>> hopefully better, way.
>> 
>> 
>> There may be changes in the future, but the manual is designed to
>> editable -- right?
>> 
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> 
>> david
>> 
>> 
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>> Simplicity, patience, compassion. These three are your greatest
>> treasures  (Tao Te Ching #67)
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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