Dennis Leeuw wrote:
Hi Gregory,
To get to 1.0 I think a roadmap is needed. Looking at:
http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?group_id=99
Maybe someone should define which one of those tasks needs to be
completed before GNUstep can be 1.0. And those points should be made
more visible on the website, as to get peoples attention.
All other stuff should be done in a post 1.0 branch or even not
excepted, until after the 1.0 release.
I believe that first and foremost we need to stop tying ourselves to the
OpenStep specification. Yes, it is a good guideline, but I don't
think we
should use it as a measure for the 1.0 anymore.
Some of the AppKit classes in it are not used any longer and thus we
really
shouldn't see these as showstoppers for the 1.0. We need to come up
with a
list of things which should be accomplished prior to the 1.0 release of
GNUStep-gui. Once this is done, we should announce GNUstep 1.0 to
the world.
I agree with you that the OpenStep spec should not be leading anymore. I
think GNUstep already has out grown the spec. It should now stand on its
own feet, with own ideas and an its own direction. But before that can
be accomplished we need to show the world we are ready to do that. And I
think a 1.0 release would be a good marker. After that we have to think
about the future for 2.0 and maintain 1.0.
But who is going to take the lead to create a list of things to be done
before we can claim 1.0. And a bigger hurdle for the GNUstep community
how are we going to agree on it. Many of those discussions tend to go no
where on the GNUstep lists.
Yes, and frankly this is a perfect opportunity to state that rule by
unanimous or even near-unanimous consent is simply not a viable nor
sustainable. People disagree. One cannot make everyone happy, nor should
they try to in all instances. Currently, I feel the GNUstep project is
trying to do so in all instances, with disastrous results.
At some point, it is sometimes necessary to simply *accept* the fact
that certain people will be unhappy with certain decisions, which they
may view to be controversial (but which many other, perhaps even the
majority in many cases, may not).
Right now, this project isn't going anywhere, and while I do not contest
the technical abilities of the leader, I do contest the
lets-make-everybody-happy-and-if-we-cant-do-that-then-forget-about-it
attitude which seems to be the norm instead of the exception. The
project needs a stronger leader. Someone willing to make some tough
decisions. The project's long-term health will be better as a result.
IMHO, as always.
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