Both GNUstep and Cocotron have already achieved this “OS independence and 
portability” better than you think, on a wider variety of platforms - Linux as 
well as Windows and FreeBSD. So if you open up the Objective-C compatibility 
layer and leave the Foundation to them you may have even better OS independence.

> On Dec 4, 2015, at 06:46, Tony Parker <anthony.par...@apple.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 2:37 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch <jtban...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jtban...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Tony.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Tony Parker <anthony.par...@apple.com 
>> <mailto:anthony.par...@apple.com>> wrote:
>> It’s tricky stuff, and the goal is to get it as standards compliant as 
>> possible. If we use this implementation for all Swift clients then we can 
>> get a consistent answer everywhere - and even better, fix bugs everywhere at 
>> the same time.
>> 
>> Agreed. I look forward to it :)  I'm just concerned that users will expect 
>> behavior to exactly match their equivalent Obj-C code. If these bugs are 
>> fixed / APIs are refined in corelibs-foundation, that expectation might be 
>> broken.
> 
> Indeed, a very good point and something we are actively thinking about.
> 
> An important goal of our project is to provide a layer of OS independence and 
> portability. There may be times when we have a bug in the Obj-C 
> implementation that we therefore decide to reflect in the Swift 
> implementation as well, because the inconsistency would otherwise be a 
> problem. Hopefully this doesn’t happen too often. I’d rather fix the bug in 
> the Obj-C implementation as well, but there are always going to be tradeoffs 
> to make.
> 
> We have lots of experience making changes to Foundation underneath apps and 
> keeping things compatible. I think we’ll certainly be using some of that as 
> we move forward with the Swift Foundation implementation as well. For 
> example, we may choose to deprecate a confusing (or wrong) API and replace it 
> with something better. We’d like the bar for changing API to be very high, 
> though, so that we can provide as much stability to clients as possible.
> 
> Thanks,
> - Tony
> 
> 
>>  
>> So if you find some of the interface confusing (or wrong), then file a bug 
>> for us at bugs.swift.org <http://bugs.swift.org/>. We can take this 
>> opportunity to try to make it better for everyone.
>> 
>> Will do!
> 
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