> can you confirm how many agents and pipelines are mapped to the
environment below?
Yes that is true

Am Sa., 17. Feb. 2024 um 18:08 Uhr schrieb Chad Wilson <
ch...@thoughtworks.com>:

> Hiya folks
>
> I've been able to replicate this problem and should be able to fix it for
> a subsequent release - thanks for the help debugging.
>
> The problem appears to arrive when there is a large number of pipelines*
> mapped to an environment;* and also a large number of agents for that
> environment. The logic for calculating the API response agents >
> environments is accidentally very, very inefficient (I think it's O(n^2 x
> m^2) or something crazy. I replicated something similar to what you
> describe with 5,000 pipelines and 60 or so agents, all mapped into the
> same, single, logical environment.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> In your case if you have all say 1,690 pipelines mapped to a single
> environment (from your stats below), and all of your 95 agents are in the
> same environment, you'd definitely trigger this issue. I can't tell exactly
> from what you have shared how the pipelines and agents are mapped to
> environments, so this is a guess - can you confirm how many agents and
> pipelines are mapped to the environment below?
>
> "Number of pipelines": 1690,
> "Number of environments": 1,
> "Number of agents": 95,
>
>
> If it's the same problem, you will probably find that *untagging the
> agents from the environment *also has a similar speed-up effect to
> deleting all of the agents (although then the pipelines requiring that
> environment won't schedule either, obviously).
>
> Another workaround in the meantime, *if you don't rely on the environment*
>
>    - to define environment variables/secure environment variables that
>    apply across all pipelines/jobs
>    - to affect whether jobs are scheduled to special agents
>
> ... may be to untag all pipelines and agents from the environment you use
> and just use the default/empty environment.
>
> -Chad
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 3:40 PM 'Wolfgang Achinger' via go-cd <
> go-cd@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> > By 'resources' I am referring to the GoCD functionality where you can
>> tag agents with resources that they offer, which are then matched to
>> pipeline jobs that say they *require* those resources to run as part of
>> agent assignment.
>> 10 Agents have 5 resources attached
>> 85 have 1 resource attached
>>
>> We use the resources to different special agents. They do the same as the
>> rest, but they are placed in dedicated networks.
>>
>> > To make sure I understand you, are you saying that the problem has been
>> here for the last year, perhaps gradually getting worse a story add more
>> agents or pipelines - but not an issue suddenly created after a particular
>> upgrade or change?
>> That's correct. It's more an over-time issue than a sudden issue.
>>
>> I sent the additional information out, but not directly, they come from a
>> different mail address over a secure transfer method.
>>
>> Am Do., 15. Feb. 2024 um 17:57 Uhr schrieb Chad Wilson <
>> ch...@thoughtworks.com>:
>>
>>> Cool, thanks! Just trying to gather enough information to see if I can
>>> replicate or find the issue in a dedicated chunk of time this weekend.
>>>
>>> You can email it to me, and/or encrypt with my GPG key if you'd like (
>>> https://github.com/chadlwilson/chadlwilson/blob/main/gpg-public-key.asc)
>>>
>>> By 'resources' I am referring to the GoCD functionality where you can
>>> tag agents with resources that they offer, which are then matched to
>>> pipeline jobs that say they *require* those resources to run as part of
>>> agent assignment.
>>>
>>> > No we use this setup no for about a year, patch the system on a
>>> regular basis including the latest gocd stable version.
>>>
>>> To make sure I understand you, are you saying that the problem has been
>>> here for the last year, perhaps gradually getting worse a story add more
>>> agents or pipelines - but not an issue suddenly created after a particular
>>> upgrade or change?
>>>
>>> -Chad
>>>
>>> On Fri, 16 Feb 2024, 00:29 'Wolfgang Achinger' via go-cd, <
>>> go-cd@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > And how many resources are defined across the agents?
>>>> What exactly do you mean here? System resources? XMS XMX Values of java
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> - Is this a problem that has always been there, or something that has
>>>> changed with a GoCD version or other change in environment?
>>>> No we use this setup no for about a year, patch the system on a regular
>>>> basis including the latest gocd stable version.
>>>>
>>>> - Is it faster when the server is restarted, and gets slower over time
>>>> (or the same after a restart)?
>>>> No a restart does not affect the speed at all. It stays constant
>>>>
>>>> - Why do you feel it is the # of jobs/stages the agents have processed
>>>> that is a key factor, rather than simply the # of agents or some other
>>>> agent configuration factor?
>>>> I don't know it was more a wild guess. After later testing, i don't
>>>> think this anymore. I cleaned up some tables and reduced the agent history
>>>> visible in the GUI, but this did not affect the speed (Well, it increased
>>>> the speed of the listing of the agent history itself but not the loading
>>>> time of the popups).
>>>>
>>>> If it is ok i will send the support output directly your our
>>>> mailadress  so it will not get shared in the thread.
>>>>
>>>> Am Do., 15. Feb. 2024 um 15:50 Uhr schrieb Chad Wilson <
>>>> ch...@thoughtworks.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> And how many resources are defined across the agents?
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you please answer the earlier questions I asked as well? It's
>>>>> rather difficult to efficiently help if you don't respond to the questions
>>>>> that characterise the problem from a maintainer perspective. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> - Is this a problem that has always been there, or something that has
>>>>> changed with a GoCD version or other change in environment?
>>>>> - Is it faster when the server is restarted, and gets slower over time
>>>>> (or the same after a restart)?
>>>>> - Why do you feel it is the # of jobs/stages the agents have processed
>>>>> that is a key factor, rather than simply the # of agents or some other
>>>>> agent configuration factor?
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, can you share a redacted output from /go/api/support ?
>>>>> You can enter the URL in the browser when logged in as an admin. Be 
>>>>> careful
>>>>> of the "Runtime Information" and "System Health Information" sections when
>>>>> sharing. These are the two main places which might leak unintentional
>>>>> information from your setup. Redact the individual values which feel
>>>>> sensitive to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Chad
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 10:17 PM 'Wolfgang Achinger' via go-cd <
>>>>> go-cd@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 environment
>>>>>> 164 materials
>>>>>> 0 elastic agents
>>>>>> 2 config repos
>>>>>> 0 artifact stores
>>>>>> 0 pluggable scms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am Do., 15. Feb. 2024 um 15:01 Uhr schrieb Chad Wilson <
>>>>>> ch...@thoughtworks.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How many distinct environments and resources do you have across
>>>>>>> these 1200 pipelines, roughly?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 5:38 PM 'Wolfgang Achinger' via go-cd <
>>>>>>> go-cd@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Additional information
>>>>>>>> Since the pipelines are configured via ~150 yaml files.
>>>>>>>> I tested it now with one big, merged config file with all pipelines
>>>>>>>> But this did not change anything,
>>>>>>>> performance slow.
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