John Nazareth, Dr. Hans Kung came to McGill U Faculty of Education in Montreal 3-4 times. He loved Montreal. I studied in some detail issues re. ‘the infallibility of the Pope’ on doctrinal matters, & whether & how in practice this applied to the College of Cardinals, etc.. He was reprimanded by the Church (Vatican) & he was denied his ‘licence’ to teach Catholic Theology at a prestigious German university. All kinds of issues emerged re. independence of a university, etc., & the Vatican's authority in the matter, & in the teaching of Catholic Theology. At about the same time, the Catholic Bishop’s of India (Mumbai) asserted that ‘culture’ & ‘faith issues’ were separate, & it was planning to move closer to’Indian culture’ with a Hindu-related belief-system & world-view. Cardinal Ivan Dias was senior Cardinal & advisor to the Pope at the time, & Bishop of Mumbai as well. Pre-Partition, that was a huge territory, including Karachi, & that connection remained. I met Cardinal Ivan Dias 3-4 times, inc when he visited Montreal (he had relatives in Toronto), & I met him in Rome. A scholar in Theology, with a real doctorate (not ‘Honorary’) in Theology. His successor in Mumbai, Cardinal Pimenta, was not a Latin scholar, but worked himself up the Church hierarchy. Very down-to-earth. Both had their offices close to the Mahim Catholic Church, on the other side, next to the Diocese offices. Dr. Hans Kung wrote a lengthy defence of his position. I ordered 2 copies from Rome & read it, gave one copy to the McGill U Library Reference section. Truly a scholar! 🙏🏽✝️ He was excommunicated, & his university changed his status to Prof of World Religions, & Comparative Religions, as the Vatican vetoed his right to teach his regular Catholic Theology courses. The Bishops of Mumbai also put out a lengthy statement, at about the same time, & they agreed with the Vatican position, limiting drastically their division of faith & culture. Pope John 23rd passed away, & Pope John Paul 11 then steered the Church to very ‘conservative’ interpretations of Theology & belief. Dr. Hans Kung was an unusual theologian. He was in great physical shape, exercised in the gym, etc., & understood deeply the distinctions & history. Re. SFX, I passed by the coffin 3 times since age 10, each time the claim was it was the last time, & now it seems every 10 years. When I was 10, the queue was miles, & we stood outside for 6-7 hours, my mum, etc.. I forget where & when I went to make ‘susu’ 😩😁! bladder relief ! Saiba Bugos ! 🙏🏽 Kitay Salunga Tuka ? - Ivan D. Ivan D. Pereira Dum Spiro Spera - when I breathe, I hope (when I pee, I am relieved of much anxiety.
On Sunday, January 28, 2024, 11:43, John Nazareth <jhr_nazar...@hotmail.com> wrote: I Understand peoples' hysteria over the body of St Francis Xavier. Many people still call it "the incorruptible body" when in fact it is just skin over bones. But miracles is another issue. Let me say at the onset that I have been studying the Bible, theology, on my own for 35 years. My favourite theologian is Fr. Hans Kung. I have strong faith and do not depend on miracles to support it. But I will also not deny miracles that I have seen with my own eyes. I attach a piece that I wrote in 1992 when my wife and I went with a prayer group to see the late Fr. Diorio. I'll let you read it. (All the same, I accept that not all claims of "miracles" are true.) John Nazareth -----Original Message----- From: 'Bernardo de Sousa' via Goa-Research-Net <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 8:45 AM To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [GRN] A purported miracle by St. Francis Xavier João Paulo Cota has a point but it's not only boundless imagination. Ignorance and superstition also play an important role. https://www.calebcolley.com/ignorance-belief-miracles/ > On 28 Jan 2024, at 12:42, Joao Paulo Cota <joao_c...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > I have checked the Portuguese press and also books on the 1961 events, there > is no mention of anything similar. > If such an event of such importance or impact would had actually taken place, > then who can explain the silence of the other 99 soldiers plus others in the > basilica? Was this guy the only one who felt something special? Surely > something very unusual would had got press coverage at the time, not some 50 > years later... > There is a Goan story told over the years that at the time where the body was > supposed to have been moved from the Se Catedral building to the Basilica, > one of the two holy water fonts at the Se Catedral cracked and broke into two > pieces. So apparently, the body was returned to the original place at the Se > Catedral. However, I had never come across any historical evidence to backup > such claim and also whilst checking the original water fonts, there seems to > be no evidence of it being either cracked, repaired or replaced - both match > in colour and shape.... > After all, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, there is no boundaries > for one's imagination. > Regards, > JPFrom: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com > <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Frederick Noronha > <fredericknoron...@gmail.com> > Sent: 28 January 2024 09:46 > To: goa-research-net@googlegroups.com > <goa-research-net@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: [GRN] A purported miracle by St. Francis Xavier One > person's claims. > This is a newspaper reader's letter-to-the-editor. > Obviously doing the rounds since before 2011. > It seems to have got a new lease of life in cyberspace recently. > FN > > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 02:05, Helga Do Rosario Gomes > <helgadorosa...@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone know anything about this incident? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/C01DD6F2-6309-4A8D-819D-0E9FA4A87F5F%40gmail.com. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/C01DD6F2-6309-4A8D-819D-0E9FA4A87F5F%40gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/CAMCR53JjnPg0CVn0YjFKhUFAkt6rrwm8nV_YLB_C%2BZCZE8Soag%40mail.gmail.com. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Goa-Research-Net" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to goa-research-net+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/goa-research-net/GV2P195MB2161351C91E2ABC7E8E3FBC9827F2%40GV2P195MB2161.EURP195.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Goa-Research-Net" group. 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