Eric has hit on an important point here. Chemistry in particular sells a lot of copies of journals to the industry, where the researchers are likely to produce patents but not many papers. Whatever system is adopted to pay for the esoteric publishing system (to use a term Stevan Harnad has stopped using!), it is essential that the input of money to the system from the chemical industry is maintained. Maybe Stevan Harnad will say that the major chemical journals (at least) are outside his definition of purely scholarly journals and fall in a similar category to Nature, Science, etc. But then how about The Lancet and other similar medical journals -- they sell lots of copies to rich doctors, who do not by any means all publish research. Are they outside Stevan Harnad's definition too?
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