on the interesting topic of Quackery the readers of this discussion may enjoy www.quackwatch.com george lundberg
-----Original Message----- From: Stevan Harnad [mailto:har...@coglit.ecs.soton.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 6:20 PM To: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org Subject: Re: ePrint Repositories Dear Art, Before I reply, may I suggest that you and others on this list who might be interested sign on to the American Scientist Forum, which has been actively discussing these and related topics: http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html The issue of quackery and potential dangers to public health has been extensively discussed, for example, in: (1) The ARCHIVE OF COMMENTS ON E-biomed: A Proposal for Electronic Publications in the Biomedical Sciences (May 5, 1999 DRAFT) http://www.nih.gov/about/director/ebiomed/comment.htm (2) Harnad, S. (2000) E-Knowledge: Freeing the Refereed Journal Corpus Online. Computer Law & Security Report 16(2) 78-87. [Rebuttal to Bloom Editorial in Science and Relman Editorial in New England Journal of Medicine] http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Papers/Harnad/harnad00.scinejm.htm (3) Harnad, S. (2000) Ingelfinger Over-Ruled: The Role of the Web in the Future of Refereed Medical Journal Publishing. The Lancet Perspectives 256 (December Supplement): s16. http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Papers/Harnad/harnad00.lancet.htm (4) The American Scientist Forum (above) The very same solution for quackery-minimization that evolved in the Gutenberg (on-paper) era, namely, relying on certified, peer-reviewed findings, is equally applicable in the PostGutenberg (on-line) era. Any residual problem created by public on-line read-write access coalesces with the problem of on-line pornography and xenophobic literature, the policing of which is a much bigger problem, well beyond the remit of learned journals, and more in the jurisdiction of institutional consortia and government. This should be clearly kept in mind. The protection of public health from quackery at the journal and Eprint archive level is, in the first instance, accomplished by prominent tagging of the peer-reviewed literature as such, just as it was done on-paper. All OAI-compliant eprints.org archives have a "refereed" and "journal-name" meta-data tag which can be used not only to restrict a user's focus to the refereed literature (just as it was on-paper), but, if deemed necessary for security reasons (I doubt this will be necessary for some time, if ever), the metadata tags, like the papers' full-texts themselves, could be uniquely authenticated by cryptographic means. In addition, the nonrefereed papers in Eprint Archives can not only itself be pre-vetted for quackery, but it can be displayed with prominent "health warnings", as as being done, for example, in the British Medical Journal's experimental http://clinmed.netprints.org/ http://www.nih.gov/about/director/ebiomed/com0509.htm http://www.nih.gov/about/director/ebiomed/com0627.htm Nor should we forget that a good deal of biomedical literature is not public-health-related; for that sector quackery is no more (or less) of an issue there than in Physics or other disciplines. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stevan Harnad har...@cogsci.soton.ac.uk Professor of Cognitive Science har...@princeton.edu Department of Electronics and phone: +44 23-80 592-582 Computer Science fax: +44 23-80 592-865 University of Southampton http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/ Highfield, Southampton http://www.princeton.edu/~harnad/ SO17 1BJ UNITED KINGDOM On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Art Huntley (Dermatology, UC Davis) wrote: > > From our standpoint, the issue of putting unvetted material on the CDL > Website relates to conflict of interest of the authors. Probably not an > issue for those in the physics world, but a traditional problem in > medicine today. > > The existence of the printing press permitted the development of the > journal and scientific format as we now know it. As early as 1662, it was > noted that medical knowledge needed to fulfill the Baconian criterion of > being freely communicated and fairly criticized. The printing press led > to great communication of science, but a parallel advancement of quackery. > I believe the existence of the Web has fertilized the quackery industry. > > We are concerned that allowing anyone to post material to the CDL, to be a > recognized site, may result in hosting content that may be simply > advertisement or, at worst, quackery. This is one of the issues that will > need to be sorted out before we have widespread acceptance by Academic > Medicine. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender or call Medscape at 877-676-1597. **********************************************************************