Steve: I am sorry;I am too pressed at this time...and in any event I do not need more any lectures from Stevan. ( see post below). The teaching issues/problems (in the UK) are explained in detail at: http://www.ukcle.ac.uk/copyright/
Alan Story .................... Stevan: Sally Morris' note raised the issue of copyright and journals on your list. And so I responded with a copyright and journals-related response. If you do not want copyight-related posts, then don't put them on in the first place. And no lectures, thank you. Alan Story ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hitchcock" <sh...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> To: <american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research > Alan, For the benefit of authors who may have little knowledge > of different rights but have probably heard of copyright, can you explain > briefly what copyright is and why retaining it may be of little use to the > author, as you suggest, in this example? Most authors will probably assume > that if they are allowed to retain copyright they are covered for uses such > self-archiving, class use, etc. > > Comment on hard-copy rights below. > > At 10:30 22/06/01 +0100, Alan Story wrote: > >The ALPSP may call their deal a "model licence"...but instead it should be > >called a "Model-T (as in circa 1930 Model-T Ford ) licence." > > > >Yes, the author gets the possibility of retaining copyright, but the > >publisher is assigned (at no cost to the publisher it should be underlined) > >ALL of the other rights, including digitalisation rights, re-publication > >rights, rights regarding non-profit educational uses of the work. > > > >Hence, AFTER hard copy publication ( and hence not conflicting with Harnad's > >"subversive proposal"), the publisher has the right to prevent any "open > >archiving" by an author(X) or her/his work and the right to charge the > >students of X's colleague a copyright royalty fee for the non-profit > >educational use of that article. > > > >In other words, a tiny tad better than the standard contract available with > >most commercial publishers...but still a Model T in the contemporary era. > > > >Any license should grant only one right to a publisher: a first hard-copy > >publication right. And not a tad more. > > Now that most print journals have e-replicas, I assume such journals would > be unable to publish those papers for which they were granted only first > hard-copy right. Correct? > > Steve > > > > >Alan Story > >Lecturer in IP Law > >Kent Law School > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Sally Morris" <sec-...@alpsp.org> > >To: <american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org> > >Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:00 PM > >Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research > > > > > > > Perhaps I can set the record straight. > > > > > > ALPSP has not (at least in the past 3 years) surveyed journals' copyright > > > policies, although in 1998/9, the Association did carry out a study of > > > journal authors (not publishers) who had recently contributed to a mixture > > > of commercial and non-commercial journals. We asked, among other things, > > > what they thought about copyright retention. 38.1% felt that copyright > > > should be transferred to the society or publisher, but full redistribution > > > rights retained by the author. 38% felt that copyright should be > >retained > > > by the author, but full publishing rights granted to the society or other > > > publisher. 23.4% felt that copyright should be retained by the author, > >and > > > only limited publishing rights granted to the society/publisher. 4.8% > >felt > > > copyright should be retained by the author's employer and full publishing > > > rights granted to the society/publisher; 2.8% were for copyright > >retention > > > by employer, limited rights > > > to society/publisher. 2.3% were for copyright retention by funding body, > > > full publishing rights to society/publisher and 1.2% for copyright > >retention > > > by funding body, limited rights to society/publisher. Interestingly, an > > > overwhelming 79.5% of respondents did not find that reaching agreement > >with > > > publishers about copyright created any obstacle whatever to their > >publishing > > > objectives. There is information about the study, links to presentations > > > and articles about it and an order form for the complete report, at > > > http://www.alpsp.org/pub1.htm > > > > > > As a result, however, of the indication that more than 60% of authors > >(more, > > > in fact, in the Humanities than in the Sciences) felt the author should > > > retain copyright, ALPSP has since developed and published a model 'grant > >of > > > licence' document which publishers might use to enable authors to retain > > > copyright, while granting to the publisher all the rights it needs. This > > > document can be found at http://www.alpsp.org/grantli.pdf, and an > >editorial > > > about it at > > > http://www.alpsp.org/cpyauth.pdf. > > > > > > Sally > > > > > > > > > > > > Sally Morris, Secretary-General > > > Association of Learned and Professional Society Publishers > > > South House, The Street, Clapham, Worthing, West Sussex BN13 3UU, UK > > > > > > Phone: 01903 871686 Fax: 01903 871457 E-mail: sec-...@alpsp.org > > > ALPSP Website http://www.alpsp.org > > > > > > Learned Publishing is now online, free of charge, at > > > www.learned-publishing.org > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Guillermo Julio Padron Gonzalez" <guillermo.pad...@cigb.edu.cu> > > > To: <american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org> > > > Sent: 31 May 2001 20:59 > > > Subject: Re: PostGutenberg Copyrights and Wrongs for Give-Away Research > > > > > > > > > > Fytton Rowland wrote: > > > > > A recent survey by the (UK) Association of Learned and Professional > > > Society > > > > > Publishers showed that a majority (about 70%, from memory) of the > > > journals > > > > > surveyed did not insist on outright transfer of copyright; they mostly > > > > > asked for it, but would not refuse to publish a paper if the author > > > > > insisted on granting only a right of first publication. > > > > > > > > Could you provide us with the reference of the original paper? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Guillermo > > > > > > > > Dr Guillermo J Padron > > > > Executive Editor > > > > Elfos Scientiae > > > > P.O. Box 6072 > > > > Havana 6, Cuba > > > > Telephones: (53-7) 33-1917 / 21-8008 > > > > Fax (53-7) 33-1917 / 21-8070 > > > > E-mail: g...@cigb.edu.cu <mailto:g...@cigb.edu.cu> > > > > URL: http://www.elfosscientiae.com.cu > > > >