On Mon, 22 Apr 2002, David Goodman wrote: > ...the insistence of some > administrative bodies that the publications be in formal conventional > journals, sometimes even requiring that they be in print format... > ...has nothing to do with peer review, one way or another. I agree > with Stevan on this...
Let us put this in context, and sort out some of the conflations: FACT 1: Virtually all of the important established peer-reviewed journals today have an online version too. So "online vs. print" in this sense is clearly not the issue, for "administrative bodies." FACT 2: Among the new peer-reviewed journal start-ups in the past several years -- i.e., among the UNestablished journals -- a significant proportion have been online-only (i.e., they have not bothered to produce a print version at all, anticipating the future, and in order to minimize needless costs). FACT 3: Established journals are weighted more heavily by "administrative bodies" in academic standing reviews for the very valid reason that they are established, they have reputations, track-records, impact-factors. There is a known, reliable way of inferring what their quality-standards are, hence of what the likely quality of accepted papers will be. FACT 4: Papers in new journals in general do not have the above, regardless of whether the journals are are print-only, online-only, or both. (There are, however, some notable exceptions: Journal of High Energy Physics http://jhep.sissa.it/ JHEP is online-only and was established only four years ago, but rose to a very high impact factor within a year or two of its inception.) As a consequence, based on the empirical data, it makes eminently good sense that universities, in evaluating the research output of their faculty, should place much greater weight on journals with established quality-standards than on those without them. The odds are accordingly that they will place less weight on online-only journals for the simple statistical reason that (a) virtually all of them will be new start-ups rather than established journals and (b) JHEP is the exception rather than the rule (but a clear enough exception so that we can be certain that JHEP authors are receiving due credit for their JHEP publications, by whatever their university happens to be). As to the bureaucratic requirement that the copies of the published papers that are physically submitted for assessment to the "administrative bodies" must be in "print format" -- that arbitrary and inefficient constraint is just too silly and trivial for us to waste time on here. We have rather more serious things to worry about than whether bureaucrats happen to want our documents in triplicate rather than duplicate. The UK's RAE http://www.rae.ac.uk/ had such a requirement last time; I trust that they will be much more sensible next time (if there is a next time): http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Tp/thes1.html One thing is sure: None of this has anything to do with the goal of the American Scientist Forum http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html , the Budapest Open Access Initiative http://www.soros.org/openaccess/ , the Public Library of Science http://www.publiclibraryofscience.org/ or the Free Online Scholarship Movement http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/ , all of which are dedicated to ushering in at last the long overdue era of toll-free online access to the entire peer-reviewed research literature. The fact that this literature is online rather than just in-print is taken for granted in all of this. That foregone conclusion is no longer even a matter worth mentioning. Stevan Harnad NOTE: A complete archive of the ongoing discussion of providing free access to the refereed journal literature online is available at the American Scientist September Forum (98 & 99 & 00 & 01): http://amsci-forum.amsci.org/archives/American-Scientist-Open-Access-Forum.html or http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/index.html Discussion can be posted to: american-scientist-open-access-fo...@amsci.org See also the Budapest Open Access Initiative: http://www.soros.org/openaccess and the Free Online Scholarship Movement: http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/timeline.htm