OK, I appreciate the distinctions you're emphasizing.  Would the first
be clearer if it simply said "made it possible for peer-reviewed
journals to distribute their contents" etc.?  and  would that second be
clearer if it simply dropped "self-publishing and" ?

John

On Dec 3, 2003, at 9:48 PM, Stevan Harnad wrote:

I don't disagree on Stevan's point about peer review, below, and
Stevan, I'd be grateful if you'd point out to me, offline, exactly
where the conflation appears, so I can correct it.

Hi John:

Here are the 2 ambiguous passages:

    the internet has made it possible for scholars to self-publish,
    and for peer-reviewed journals to distribute their contents widely
    and quickly--in other words, to make high-quality, peer-reviewed
    information freely available soon after its creation.

    Self-publishing and self-archiving would moot many of the things on
    that list (for example, the claim to "make available to the broader
    public the full range and value of research generated by university
    faculty")

You do say "and," but for most readers, who will have no clear idea of
the difference between self-publishing (vanity press) and
self-archiving
(of refereed publication), they will be read as synonyms or close
variants,
whereas in fact they are opposites.

It needs to be made clear that open online access does not mean
self-publishing!
It means providing open online access to what one has published
(elsewhere).

A distinction also has to be made between publishing in an open-access
journal
(such as PostModern Culture or Psycoloquy), of which there are still
very few
(about 600 to date according to http://www.doaj.org/ ) and
self-archiving
one's toll-access publications (23,400 journals) as the latter
represents
over 95% of the literature in question, the one we are trying to
provide open
access to!

It's probably clear in your mind but, believe me, everyone else's mind
is far
from clear -- on this and many other matters pertaining to open access!

But your proposal to the provosts is a very welcome and timely one.
Let's
hope it will set them in motion. (Nothing much has happened since that
last
meeting at CalTech, at the provost level, in any case!).

Cheers, Stevan

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