The differing fees ($500 versus $1500) have to do with rejection rates,
since only accepted papers pay the fee.  Rejected papers incur costs.  The
figure of about $500 per paper being adequate to cover costs depends on a
rejection rate of about 50%.   A rejection rate of about 80% would require a
fee of about $1500.

An alternative approach would be to charge the fee to all submissions.  It
need only be about $250 then, but those whose papers are rejected get
nothing for their $250.  This method would encourage authors to be very
realistic in their choice of journal to submit to, though.  As far as I know
no journal has tried this approach yet.

Fytton Rowland, Loughboroughb University, UK.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Krichel" <kric...@openlib.org>
To: <american-scientist-open-access-fo...@listserver.sigmaxi.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: New channel of support for open-access publishing


>   Stevan Harnad writes
> > On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Thomas Krichel wrote:
> >
> > >   $1500 per paper should be amply sufficient to fund the
> > >   publishing operation. I suggest that libraries support other
> > >   ventures with more moderate charges.
> >
> > Thomas, did you mean $500 ? Otherwise your posting does not quite
> > make sense. (PLoS is proposing $1500.)
>
>   Yes, that is what I meant: $1500 should be amply sufficient.
>   Institutions should not be handing more money to PLoS.
>
> > If you meant $500 I remind you that PLoS is aiming explicitly for the
> > high (quality, impact, prestige) end of science publishing (the level
> > of Nature and Science) on the assumption that if the high end can be
> > won over to OA journals, the rest will follow suit.
>
>   By the same token, do you sincerely want to suggest that the competitors
of
>   PLoS who charge more reasonable fees are intending to attract
>   low-quality papers? Surely not! They just not as greedy as PLoS.
>
>   It costs as much to publish quality intellectual contents as it cost
>   to publish rubbish intellectual contents. Sure, if you have complicate
>   multi-media contents, then your costs are likely to be higher. But most
>   of the documents we are talking here about are, presumably, the
>   traditional stuff of text, mathematical formulas and pictures that
>   academic authors are trained to produce. To produce good multi-media
>   is a different story, it is likely to be the preserve of trade authors.
>
> > $1500 may well cover extra enhancements that make the transition at the
> > high end more appealing to authors at this time.
>
>   PLoS can use the 9 Million subsidy that they already have received
>   for that transition. Institutional monies will better spent on
>   institutional archiving, or participation in discipline based
>   initiatives such as arXiv.org, RePEc, or rclis.org.
>
>
>   Cheers,
>
>   Thomas Krichel                      mailto:kric...@openlib.org
>                                  http://openlib.org/home/krichel
>                              RePEc:per:1965-06-05:thomas_krichel
>

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