I suggest it is time that OA advocates upgrade our standards. The 
self-archiving of posprints 
whose reliability and correctness is unknown is a very poor excuse for the real 
version.
It adds  complexity for students, and in fact makes it necessary for a research 
to be
either use published articles only, or verify for each article used that the 2 
versions do in fact match.

(preprints are another matter: they serve the same function electronically that 
they did in Xerox:
to make the author's draft available before formal publication.or even before 
refereeing if so desired)

It was right to use this  admittedly less than perfect method as a first step 
towards publisher acceptance.
I think we can now ask for better, and find our request matched by the more 
forward-thinking of 
publishers.
Poliically, it seems that it seems to be of little value  to ask for just a 
compromise, 
as we watch the NIH proposal become weaker and weaker.

I note that  (even) the American
Physiological Society  now says it makes more sense to deposit the actual 
article. 
To insert from liblicense:
"We already make content available on the Web at 12 months through links
at Medline," said Alice Ra'anan, American Physiological Society
spokesperson. "They'd be better off using the definitive article rather
than the manuscript. "

Dr. David Goodman
Associate Professor
Palmer School of Library and Information Science
Long Island University
[email protected]



-----Original Message-----
From: American Scientist Open Access Forum on behalf of Stevan Harnad
Sent: Mon 1/17/2005 2:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject:      Re: Evolving Publisher Copyright Policies On Self-Archiving
 
On the list of publishers at:
http://romeo.eprints.org/publishers.html
is it the case that any publisher that is green is also pale-green?
Just a fine point.
Thanks

    [Reply: Not necessarily, but it does not matter much. Open Access
    is about postprints, so if a journal is postprint green, it's
    as green as it needs to be, and as green as 100% OA needs it to
    be. The unrefereed preprint is an added bonus to OA. All authors
    may self-archived their pre-refereeing preprints without needing
    the green light from anyone. But it is always more encouraging to
    an author if the publisher endorses preprint self-archiving too.
    http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/#publisher-forbids -- S.H.]


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