On Sun, 13 Mar 2005, Leslie Chan wrote: > I am against updating the BOAI definition of OA because I think the > current definition is more than adequate
Leslie, do you think it is more than adequate that (1) 12-month delayed-access (NIH Back Access) is being offered in place of immediate access (and that if the BOAI definition of OA is not updated, this could even be offered in the *name* of OA), (2) that this is being used as a pretext for publisher Back-Sliding on Green (e.g., Nature), (3) that these policies now risk being copied and cloned, and (4) that this this could lock in Back Access in place of (and in the name of) Open Access for many years to come? "Shulenburger on open access: so NEAR and yet so far" http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3277.html "Please Don't Copy-Cat Clone NIH-12 Non-OA Policy!" http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4307.html "Open Access vs. NIH Back Access and Nature's Back-Sliding" http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/4312.html And would you think it adequate if funders were to seek -- and publishers to offer -- free access for a fixed period, subsequently withdrawn, in the name of OA (as they could, technically, based on the current BOAI definition of OA)? > the proposed update is needlessly confusing... > No one knows what "permanent" means in the digital realm, > so why add that level of uncertainly. Would it be confusing to say instead that free online access must be immediate (upon acceptance for publication) and must not subsequently be withdrawn? That captures the practical objective without asking for any clairvoyance or omniscience on the subject of failsafe digital preservation. > The current definition is sufficiently clear and sufficiently flexible to > allow a broad range of approaches to OA But the current definition is also sufficiently flexible so that I could claim I publish an OA journal (gold) if it makes its articles freely accessible online 24 months after publication for one day (only)! I could also claim I publish an OA-friendly green journal if I give my authors the green light to self-archive their articles for one day (only), 24 months after publication. If we are not ready to allow that an article to which you can have access only if you (or your institution) pay an access-toll is either OA or "partially OA" (or more OA the lower the access-price), then, by exactly the same token, we should not be ready to allow that an article to which you can have free access for only one day is either OA or "partially OA" (or more OA the sooner or longer it is accessible free). To allow either would immediately introduce a potential slippery slope that would reduce "OA" to an absurdity. > Let's agree that there are multiple flavours of OA (to use John > Willinsky's term) and that there are no one-size-fits all solution for all > circumstances. But there *aren't* multiple flavours of OA: There are multiple *roads* to OA (mainly the golden road of OA publishing and the green road of OA self-archiving, plus combinations and variants thereof). An article that is freely accessible online comes in only one flavour: *freely accessible online*. But if it is obvious that an article that is freely accessible online only for one day (or only a century after publication) is no more OA than an article that is freely accessible to me because my institution has paid the access-tolls, then it should be obvious why immediacy and permanence need to be part of the definition of OA. One-day free access is no more a mere variant "flavor" of OA that merely differs from the "flavor" of two-day free access than two-dollar toll access is a different flavor of OA from one-dollar toll access: None of these are OA, and our definition of OA should make this quite explicit by specifying that OA must be immediate and permanent. This does not imply that $1 toll-access is not preferable to $2 toll-access, or 2-day free access to 1-day free access. It just makes it clear none of these is OA! Stevan Harnad