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This comment was reported in the "independent daily student newspaper" - so its record of the debate will probably not be totally accurate.But I would like to reassure Prof Moses about Open Access to Women's Studies. The following are listed as the two top journals"in women's studies: Gender and Society (Sage Publishing) and Signs (University of Chicago Press) and Sherpa Romeo lists both of these journals as allowing preprint deposit and postprint deposit with embargo.-- Les Carr On 25 Apr 2009, at 14:48, David Prosser wrote: Interestingly, the main objection against the policy as reported was: "Open access will kill the journals you need during your career," women's studies professor and university senator Claire Moses said. "It's as simple as that." That is not a gold/green OA misunderstanding. That?s just a misunderstanding. It is not clear to me that this would have been cleared-up if the Maryland resolution had removed all mention of journals ? some academics fear that green OA will destroy journals. I know that some feel that all the world?s ills can be layed at the door of gold OA, but this really doesn?t look like a case of so-called ?gold fever?. David David C Prosser PhD Director SPARC Europe Tel: +44 (0) 1865 277 614 Mobile: +44 (0) 7974 673 888 Web: www.sparceurope.org ____________________________________________________________________________ From: Repositories discussion list [mailto:jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Stevan Harnad Sent: 24 April 2009 17:27 To: jisc-repositor...@jiscmail.ac.uk Subject: Gold Fever: Read and Weep ** Apologies for cross-posting ** Those who still harbor any doubt that the mixing of talk about Gold OA publishing or funding with plans for Green OA self-archiving mandates causes anything but confusion, distraction, delay and failure to make progress toward universal OA: Please readPeter Suber's comments on this this latest fiasco at the University of Maryland -- and weep. And then please trust some sound advice from a weary and wizened but world-wise archivangelist: Disentangle completely all talk and policy concerning the requirement to self-archive refereed journal articles (the Green OA mandate) from any advice concerning whether or not to publish in Gold OA journals, and from any plans to help authors pay for Gold OA journal publishing charges, should they elect to publish in a fee-based Gold OA journal. Otherwise this mindless and thoughtless Gold Fever will just usher in yet another half-decade of failure to reach for what is already fully within the global research community's grasp: universal Green OA through universal Green OA self-archiving mandates adopted by universities and research funders worldwide. Stevan Harnad American Scientist Open Access Forum