Hi Larry, Thanks a lot for your message signaling the situation in the humanities. This is exactly to this end that alternative models to the green-gold yoke have been put in place in such platforms as openedition-revues.org (which I guess you're aware of). We need a little bit more creativity on the scholarly side if we actually want to see our results openly disseminated. Have a read at: http://www.openedition.org/8873 Laurent PS: Marin Dacos, the master mind behind openedition
Le 20 juil. 2012 à 11:13, l.hurt...@ed.ac.uk a écrit : > I'm President of my UK learned society, and have had no contact about > the Finch project or anything connected with scholarly publishing. > So, I'm not confident that the scholarly community has been involved > adequately in the Finch process (though I stand to be corrected). > From what little I've learned thus far of the "Gold OA" proposal, I'm > worried, particularly for two constituencies: > --The models all seem heavily driven by the problems and practices of > the sciences, with little regard for the Humanities. We don't (never > have) paid page charges. Our journals aren't typically expensive at > all (an "expensive" journal might cost a univ library a few hundred > quid at most, and that would be rare). We don't typically have > research grants to pay page charges (the govts typically don't see > Humanities research as important enough to fund it in any measure > other than token). > --There are a number of private scholars in the Humanities who don't > hold Univ posts but produce high-quality work. Who will pay their > page charges? > > In short, once again, the Humanities seem to have been left largely > out of the thinking about consequences of the various models. > > Larry Hurtado > > Quoting "Hélène.Bosc" <hbosc-tcher...@orange.fr> on Thu, 19 Jul 2012 > 21:13:57 +0200: > >> See also this study : >> BJÖRK, B.C. A Study of Innovative Features in Scholarly Open Access >> Journals. Journal of Medical Internet Research, vol. 13 (4), 2011. >> http://www.jmir.org/2011/4/e115/ >> >> Hélène Bosc >> Open access to Scientific Communication >> http://open-access.infodocs.eu/tiki-index.php >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Peter Suber >> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) >> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 3:01 PM >> Subject: [GOAL] Re: Finding a business model for a growing Open >> AccessJournal >> >> >> See the list of OA journal business models at the Open Access Directory. >> http://oad.simmons.edu/oadwiki/OA_journal_business_models >> >> >> Peter >> >> >> Peter Suber >> gplus.to/petersuber >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:17 AM, Peter Murray-Rust <pm...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: >> >> I am forwarding a message from the OKFN's open-access list >> (http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access which uses the >> term strictly to mean BOAI-compliant). >> >> The poster Katie runs a successful OA journal and asks how she >> can scale up without APCs. She raises the idea of a SCOAP3-like >> model for cancer. There must be a number of other people with the >> same question: >> * they don't want closed access >> * they don't want author-side fees >> * they recognize the money has to come from somewhere. >> >> Katie (and I) would be interested to know of possible models and >> possible nuclei of like-minded groups. >> >> This seems to me one of the key problems of the current time of >> transition. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Katie Foxall <ka...@ecancer.org> >> Date: Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 10:53 AM >> Subject: Re: [Open-access] SCOAP3 >> To: open-acc...@lists.okfn.org >> >> >> Hello all >> >> I haven't posted [on OKFN open-access] before but have been >> following the discussions with much >> interest and have founds the info and links provided by various people >> really useful. I run an open access cancer journal >> http://ecancer.org/ecms >> which has no author fees - we are currently mainly supported by charity >> funding but the journal has been growing at a great rate this year so I'm >> looking into accessing any funding that might be out there to >> support open >> access publishing. The reality is that we will have to start charging >> author fees at some point if we can't get more funding and we >> really don't >> want to do that as providing a free service for the oncology community is >> very important to us. >> >> So does anyone know whether there is anything like SCOAP3 in the field of >> medical publishing? >> >> Thanks in advance for any help or advice anyone might be able to give me, >> >> Katie Foxall >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: open-access-boun...@lists.okfn.org >> [mailto:open-access-boun...@lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of >> c...@cameronneylon.net >> Sent: 18 July 2012 15:50 >> To: open-acc...@lists.okfn.org >> Subject: [Open-access] SCOAP3 >> >> Not got so much press as the big announcements this week but >> this is a big >> deal. Communities can just decide unilaterally to move to OA. >> >> http://scoap3.org/news/news94.html >> _______________________________________________ >> open-access mailing list >> open-acc...@lists.okfn.org >> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> open-access mailing list >> open-acc...@lists.okfn.org >> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/open-access >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Peter Murray-Rust >> Reader in Molecular Informatics >> Unilever Centre, Dep. 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