On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Gerritsma, Wouter
<wouter.gerrit...@wur.nl>wrote:


>  Google Scholar is a very good fulltext scholarly search engine, no doubt
> about it. But it doesn’t find all the ftxt available on the web, albeit it
> does a good job.
>
> Take e.g. one of my articles
> http://scholar.google.com/scholar?cluster=17014920805021872143&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5GS
>  found two PDF version’s but not the one on our universities repository.
> That is still not fully indexed. Although it gets close
> http://library.wur.nl/WebQuery/wurpubs/lang/380005 it found our metadata
> reocrd, but not the ftxt.****
>
> I guess this is still the case with many repositories. Earlier this year
> it was even reported in the literature:****
>
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>
> Arlitsch, K. & P.S. O'Brien (2012). Invisible institutional repositories:
> addressing the low indexing ratios of IRs in Google. Library Hi Tech,
> 30(1): 60-81 http://dx.doi.org/10.1108/07378831211213210****
>
> ** **
>
> So Google Scholar is still not the cure all for all OA available in the
> world. Interestingly our repository is better indexed in the standard
> Google search engine rather than the Scholar version.****
>
> ** **
>
> So my point is, doing a search on GS, and finding a lot of hits still
> doesn’t guarantee to find all the ftxt of those papers. ****
>

Google Scholar does not find *all* the full-text papers freely accessible
online, but it finds most of them -- and incomparably more of them than any
other search engine.

Yes, Google Scholar coverage of institutional repositories can and will
improve. But it won't make much difference as long as most institutional
repositories are un-mandated, and hence near empty.

To repeat, the problem is that Green OA self-archiving needs to be mandated
-- by institutions and funders -- worldwide. Till it is, we are mostly
spinning wheels.

And if and when OA is closer to 90% than to 10%, not only will Google
Scholar developers dramatically upgrade Google Scholar's power, but many
other OA-specific search engines will do so too.

Till then, however, it's hardly worth their while.

Stevan Harnad

PS: A side-bet (that I've made before): Once OA full-text is reliably near
100%, intelligent text-mining software-based tagging will outperform any
prefabricated, author-generated, librarian-generated or crowd-source based
tagging scheme for search and discovery. (But there's no motivation at all
to develop such future wonders on the impoverished corpus we have now...)


> *From:* goal-boun...@eprints.org [mailto:goal-boun...@eprints.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Stevan Harnad
> *Sent:* donderdag 3 januari 2013 2:09
> *To:* Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci)
> *Cc:* SPARC Open Access Forum; scholc...@ala.org T.F.; LibLicense-L
> Discussion Forum
> *Subject:* [GOAL] Re: New Year's challenge for repository developers and
> managers: awesome cross-search****
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> CHEER-LEADING, CHALLENGES AND REALITY****
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> What is missing and needed is not "awesome repositories cross-search
> tools." ****
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> What is missing and needed is OA repository deposits, and OA deposit
> mandates. ****
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> The repositories are mostly empty. ****
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> And Google Scholar finds what OA content there is -- wherever it is on the
> web -- incomparably better than "awesome repositories cross-search tools."
> ****
>
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>
> Here is just a sample vanity search on a relatively uncommon name (try
> your own):****
>
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>
> *Awesome repositories cross-search tool:* Harnad 140 
> hits<http://network.bepress.com/explore/?q=Harnad>
> ****
>
> *Google Scholar:* Harnad 15,900 
> hits<http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=Harnad&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5>
>  (author:Harnad: 
> 1,010<http://scholar.google.ca/scholar?q=author%3AHarnad&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5>
>  hits)****
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