Pippa / Dan,

Section 4.2 of the policy states that "the journal must allow deposit of 
Accepted Manuscripts that include all changes resulting from peer review (but 
not necessarily incorporating the publisher's formatting) in other 
repositories, without restrictions on non-commercial re-use and within a 
defined period" 
(http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUK%20_Policy_on_Access_to_Research_Outputs.pdf).

The policy does not define a specific licence for green deposit, provided 
non-commercial re-use such as text and data mining is supported.  In 
presentations I say that this 'equates to CC-BY-NC', however, we do not 
specifically require CC-BY-NC.  This is because some publishers, such as Nature 
(http://www.nature.com/authors/policies/license.html), offer specific deposit 
licences which meet the requirements of the policy.

However, as Ross notes, this is the minimum requirement. So if authors are able 
and willing to use more open licences, such as CC-BY, we would encourage this.  
The more open the licence, the less ambiguities and barriers there are to 
re-use of repository content.

Mark.


Mark Thorley
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Subject: [GOAL] Re: RCUK policy: relationship between green and CC-BY-NC

To me the policy doesn't contradict itself: it says:

Gold OA must allow commercial reuse
but
Green OA can be restricted to non-commercial reuse only ("without restrictions 
on non-commercial re-use" - i.e. without restrictions, so long as the reuse is 
non-commercial)

and - so far as I am aware - this is fairly common in other mandates - i.e. "if 
we pay publishers for gold OA, then we want it fully accessible (for commercial 
and other re-use), but if we don't pay them, then we will allow them to make 
commercial use, but insist that others may be able to make non-commercial reuse 
without restriction"
Pippa

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On 30 January 2013 15:05, Dan Stowell <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> We're having some discussion in our research group here about the RCUK
> policy, and there's a point of interpretation, which I wonder if
> you've resolved yourselves.
>
> The question is whether RCUK policy on green OA implies a specific
> licence, and in particular whether it implies CC-BY-NC. I don't really
> want to discuss what the policy *should* be, if you don't mind - just
> trying to understand what the policy *is*.
>
> Linked from the RCUK's main outputs page
> <http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/research/Pages/outputs.aspx>
> are two documents. One is the main policy document
> <http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/RCUK%20_Policy_on_Access_to
> _Research_Outputs.pdf>
> - it clearly says (sec 4.1) that gold must be CC-BY, while for green
> (sec 4.2) it says "the journal must allow deposit [...] in other
> repositories, without restrictions on non-commercial re-use and within
> a defined period." So it seems clear to me that that is not a positive
> requirement for a specific licence, but a negative requirement that we
> cannot do green OA that bans commercial use. The guidance document
> linked just below it does not narrow down green any further.
>
> However, linked from *the same page* is a presentation
> <http://www.rcuk.ac.uk/documents/documents/Thorley_RCUK_November2012.p
> df) which very clearly (slide 10) says "Green (at least post print)
> with a maximum embargo period of 6(12) months, and CC-BY-NC".
>
> Both of these cannot be true, or else I'm misinterpreting something.
> Does the Thorley presentation contain a mistaken assertion, or a
> missing context?
>
> Thanks
> Dan
>
>
> --
> Dan Stowell
> Postdoctoral Research Assistant
> Centre for Digital Music
> Queen Mary, University of London
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