On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM, Laurent Romary <laurent.rom...@inria.fr>wrote:
> With all respect, Stevan, I am not sure it is worth answering publishers' > policy tricks with deposit hacks. The core question is: does Elsevier > fulfills, by making such statements, its duties as service provider in the > domain of scholarly communication. If not, we, as institutions, have to be > clear as to what we want, enforce the corresponding policy (i.e. we > determine what and in which way we want our publications to be > disseminated) and inform the communities accordingly. > I agree with Laurent. We should assert our rights and - if we could act coherently - we would be able to get them implemented. There is no legal reason why we cannot assert a zero-month embargo - we are just afraid of the publishers rather than believers in our own power. (It wouldn't hurt the publishers as repositories are not yet a credible resource for bulk readership). Libraries (including Cambridge) seem to sign any contract the publisher puts in front of them - they only challenge price, not use and re-use. In a recent mail on OA the process on Green (paraphrased) was "we'll see what embargo periods the publishers mandate" [and then enforce them]. whereas it should have been "we - the world - demand access to knowledge and will not accept embargos". That's a clear starting point. I could believe in Green OA if it were boldly carried out and repositories actually worked for readers (including machines). As it is we have "nearly OA" - i.e. not visible. And "OA/ID" - visible at some unspecified time in the future. If the OA community could get a single clear goal then it might start to be effective for the #scholarlypoor, such as Jack Andraka whose parents buy him pay per view for medical papers. -- Peter Murray-Rust Reader in Molecular Informatics Unilever Centre, Dep. Of Chemistry University of Cambridge CB2 1EW, UK +44-1223-763069
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