I not sure I understand Eric's 'unaddressed problem'. Web of Science has a very rigorous selection policy and Jeffrey Beall has an informative listing of 'suspect' OA journals. Shouldn't these resources provide prospective authors with sufficient information to make an informed decision on where or where not to publish?
Dana L. Roth Millikan Library / Caltech 1-32 1200 E. California Blvd. Pasadena, CA 91125 626-395-6423 fax 626-792-7540 dzr...@library.caltech.edu http://library.caltech.edu/collections/chemistry.htm From: goal-boun...@eprints.org [goal-boun...@eprints.org] on behalf of Heather Morrison [heather.morri...@uottawa.ca] Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2015 8:55 AM To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) Subject: [GOAL] Re: Need for a new beginning - Assessing Publishers and Journals Scholarly Practices - Reloaded hi Eric, It is good to see a discussion of this topic. Some preliminary thoughts: The journal-level peer review process involved in the SSHRC Aid to Scholarly Journals is a type of model I suggest others look at. The primary questions have nothing to do with metrics, but rather are qualitative, whether a high standard of review is met. There likely are similar models elsewhere - I am sure that one needs to fit within the academic community to be part of Scielo, for example. Research to gather information on what people are doing would be helpful. Regional or discipline-based approaches would make sense. I question the need for a universal list, and for metrics-based approaches. Whether a contribution to our knowledge is sound and important and whether it has an immediate short-term impact are two completely separate questions. My perspective is that work is needed on the impact of metrics-based approaches. The important questions for scholars in any discipline should be "what to read" and "where to publish", not any metric, traditional or alternative. I think we scholars ourselves should take responsibility for the lists and recommending journals for indexing rather than leaving such questions to the commercial sector. Heather On Oct 3, 2015, at 11:25 AM, "Éric Archambault" <eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com> wrote: <!-- @font-face {font-family:"Cambria Math"} @font-face {font-family:Calibri} p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline} p {margin-right:0cm; margin-left:0cm; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D} .MsoChpDefault {font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"} @page WordSection1 {margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt} --> BODY {direction: ltr;font-family: Arial;color: #000000;font-size: 12pt;}P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} Hi List Hi list My previous efforts rapidly went off-topic, so I’m making a second effort to reload the questions to the list with the hope of receiving more input on this important topic. Back to our still largely unaddressed problem, I am re-inviting people to contribute ideas, focussing away from individuals. What is the best way to deal with the question of assessing the practices of publishers and journals (for subscription only, hybrid and open access journals)? Should it be done through a negative list listing journals/publishers with deceptive practices? Should it be done through a positive list of best-practice journals? Should it be done through an exhaustive list comprising all scholarly quality-reviewed journals (peer-review is somewhat restrictive as different fields have different norms). Personally, I think the latter is the way to go. Firstly, there is currently no exhaustive list of reviewed scholarly journals. Though we sent astronauts to the moon close to half a century ago, we are still largely navigating blind on evidence-based decision-making in science. No one can confidently say how many active journals there are the world over. We need an exhaustive list. Secondly, I think journals and publishers should not be examined in a dichotomous manner; we need several criteria to assess their practice and the quality of what is being published. What metrics do we need to assess journal quality, and more specifically`: -What metrics of scholarly impact should be used (that is, within the scholarly community impact – typically the proprietary Thomson Journal Impact Factor has been the most widely used even though it was designed at the same time as we sent astronauts to the moon and has pretty much never been updated since -- full disclosure: Science-Metrix is a client of Thomson Reuters’s Web of Science raw data; competing indicators include Elsevier’s SNIP and SCIMAGO’s SJR, both computed with Scopus data and available for free for a few years but with comparatively limited uptake -- full disclosure: Science-Metrix is a client of Elsevier’s Scopus raw data; note also that bibliometrics practices such as CWTS, iFQ and Science-Metrix compute their own version of these journal impact indicators using WoS and/or Scopus data) -What metrics of outreach should be used (e.g. use by the public, government, enterprises – typically these are covered by so-called “alternative metrics”)? -What metrics of peer-review and quality-assessment effectiveness should be used? -What other metrics would be relevant? Perhaps before addressing the above questions we should examine these two questions: Why do we need such a list? What are the use cases for such a list? The following “how” questions are very important too: -How should such a list be produced? -How will it be sustainable? Finally the “who” question: Who should be contributing the list? -A Wikipedia-sort of crowdsourced list? -Should only experts be allowed to contribute to the list? Librarians? Scholars? Anyone? -A properly funded not-for-profit entity? -Corporate entities vying for a large market share? Thank you for your input, Éric Eric Archambault, Ph.D. President and CEO | Président-directeur général Science-Metrix & 1science 1335, Mont-Royal E Montréal, QC H2J 1Y6 - Canada E-mail: eric.archamba...@science-metrix.com Web: science-metrix.com 1science.com _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal _______________________________________________ GOAL mailing list GOAL@eprints.org http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
