Dear Marin, You are right. I have been living too long in the desert.
Yes, of course I agree that a law requiring all scientific articles and their data to be made openly accessible would be action and would be positive. My apologies if my grumpy posting implied otherwise. I thank you and the far more attentive and patient Hélène Bosc for pointing this out to me. Stevan Harnad > On Mar 27, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Marin Dacos <marin.da...@openedition.org> wrote: > > Let’s hope it leads to concrete implementation sooner than the “Berlin > Declaration <http://www.dlib.org/dlib/march05/harnad/03harnad.html>” > of 2003 (still not implemented in 2016). > > But let’s also remember that it is not declarations or petitions > <http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/0934.html> or even > attention > that OA has lacked since at least 1994 > <http://poynder.blogspot.ca/2014/06/the-subversive-proposal-at-20.html>: > It’s action. > This petition is action. French Senate will soon discuss the "Digital Law", > which includes two articles : > - 17th article is allowing researchers to deposit their articles in open > archives, even if signed contrats with publishers explicitly forbids that : > the French Law will give a new right to authors ; > - 18thbis article is allowing text and data mining for researchers. > If the Senate votes this law, it will be far more easy to convince > universities and researchers to deposit their articles in open archives. As > you know, many people think they are not allowed to do things. > Best regards, > Marin Dacos > > > > The 22+ years needlessly lost so far are irretrievable. The question (for > future historians <http://www.dlib.org/dlib/december99/12harnad.html>) > will be how many more were lost, since 2016, until the optimal, inevitable > and obvious > outcome — fully within reach for decades — was at last grasped? > > After all, OA is not (and never has been) rocket science. It’s just raincoat > science > <http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/179-Raincoat-Science.html>. > > But I’m just repeating myself... > > > SH > >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Stevan Harnad <mailto:amscifo...@gmail.com> >>> To: Global Open Access List (Successor of AmSci) <mailto:goal@eprints.org> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 3:25 PM >>> Subject: Re: [GOAL]FW: [accesouvert] Pour une science ouverte à tous >>> >>> Too verbose and vague: All scientific and scholarly research must be made >>> freely accessible to everyone online immediately upon passing peer review. >>> >>> SH >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 3:10 AM, BAUIN Serge <serge.ba...@cnrs.fr >>> <mailto:serge.ba...@cnrs.fr>> wrote: >>>> Dear all, >>>> (sorry for cross posting) >>>> >>>> For those who can read French or can have a short French text easily >>>> explained. >>>> >>>> As you may be aware of, a law is under scrutiny now in France with two >>>> articles concerning scientific publications. >>>> One is about open access and the right for authors to deposit their papers >>>> in a an OA repository (very similar to the German law), the second one >>>> about TDM rights (very similar to the English law). >>>> The French law has been adopted by the « Assemblée Nationale » (lower >>>> chamber) and is now in the hands of the « Sénat » (higher chamber). >>>> Lobbying by some publishers endangers a proper voting in the Sénat. >>>> An opinion column signed by 33 top level scientists, including 3 Nobel >>>> price and a Fields medal laureates, has been published in « Le Monde >>>> <http://www.lemonde.fr/sciences/article/2016/03/07/pour-une-science-ouverte-a-tous_4878011_1650684.html?xtmc=pour_une_science_ouverte_a_tous&xtcr=4> >>>> » early this month. >>>> The decision has been taken to turn this column into a petition to be >>>> addressed to Thierry Mandon, Junior Minister for Higher Education and >>>> Research. >>>> >>>> You can sign it and have it signed if you will. >>>> >>>> All the best >>>> >>>> Serge >>>> >>>> De : Emilien RUIZ <emilien.r...@univ-lille3.fr >>>> <mailto:emilien.r...@univ-lille3.fr>> >>>> Répondre à : Emilien RUIZ <emilien.r...@univ-lille3.fr >>>> <mailto:emilien.r...@univ-lille3.fr>> >>>> Date : Fri, 25 Mar 2016 16:37:36 +0100 >>>> À : "d...@groupes.renater.fr <mailto:d...@groupes.renater.fr>" >>>> <d...@groupes.renater.fr <mailto:d...@groupes.renater.fr>>, >>>> "accesouv...@groupes.renater.fr <mailto:accesouv...@groupes.renater.fr>" >>>> <accesouv...@groupes.renater.fr <mailto:accesouv...@groupes.renater.fr>> >>>> Objet : [accesouvert] Pour une science ouverte à tous >>>> >>>> Bonjour à toutes et tous, >>>> >>>> Constatant le poids politique d'un très petit nombre d'éditeurs privés et >>>> leur activisme contre la loi auprès des cabinets (Recherche, Education, >>>> Culture, Premier Ministre, Elysée), nous avons décidé, avec les co-auteurs >>>> de la tribune parue dans Le Monde le 7 mars dernier, de la transformer en >>>> pétition sur Change.org <http://change.org/>, afin de collecter la >>>> signature des "chercheurs de terrain". Notre objectif est d'atteindre >>>> plusieurs milliers de signatures avant le vote de la loi. >>>> >>>> https://www.change.org/p/thierry-mandon-education-gouv-fr-pour-une-science-ouverte-%C3%A0-tous >>>> >>>> <https://www.change.org/p/thierry-mandon-education-gouv-fr-pour-une-science-ouverte-%C3%A0-tous> >>>> >>>> >>>> Si vous partagez le point de vue de ce texte, n'hésitez pas à le signer et >>>> à le diffuser. >>>> >>>> Bien cordialement, >>>> -- >>>> Émilien Ruiz >>>> Maître de conférences en histoire contemporaine >>>> Université Lille 3 - IRHiS (UMR 8529) >>>> Site web <http://e-ruiz.com/> | Page professionnelle >>>> <http://irhis.recherche.univ-lille3.fr/0EC-Ruiz.html> >>>> > > > > -- > To unsubscribe from the BOAI Forum, use the form on this page: > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/boai-forum > <http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/boai-forum> > > > > -- > Marin Dacos - http://www.openedition.org <http://www.openedition.org/> > Directeur - Centre pour l'édition électronique ouverte > OpenEdition - 38 Rue Frédéric Joliot Curie - F - 13013 Marseille Cedex 13 > Tél. : 04 13 55 03 39 > Skype : marin.dacos - Google hangout : marin.da...@openedition.org > <mailto:marin.da...@openedition.org> > Twitter [FR] : http://twitter.com/marindacos > <http://twitter.com/#%21/marindacos> > Twitter [EN] : http://twitter.com/openmarin <http://twitter.com/openmarin> > _______________________________________________ > GOAL mailing list > GOAL@eprints.org > http://mailman.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mailman/listinfo/goal
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