On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Heather Morrison <
heather.morri...@uottawa.ca> wrote:

> This is a repeat of one argument I made last week to focus on one argument
> at a time.
>
> Either public domain or CC-BY is consistent with, and facilitates, toll
> access, both by the original publisher and downstream.
>
> To date the best examples I have seen of creative use of CC-BY for
> commercial profit-making are Elsevier's ability to incorporate such works
> into their toll access services such as Scopus and metadata sales, at no
> cost to Elsevier, and Springer's harvesting of images from CC-BY works for
> TA image bank (few years ago).
>

Assuming ths was the collection of images into "Springer Images" in 2012
this is not a correct record. I have documented this in considerable detail
in my blog - there are many entries (e.g.
https://blogs.ch.cam.ac.uk/pmr/2012/06/06/springergate-springerimages-for-today/
and entries on both sides).

Springer collected [all the?]  images in the articles thay had published
over several years. They did this without regard to the licences or
ownership or authorship. They stamped this "Copyright Springer". In
thousands of case this was a direct violation of copyright. I challenged
this and BiomedCentral (an open access publisher then recently acquired by
Springer) had to sort the mess out.


>
> US public domain to works created by federal employees works really well
> in areas where the US government itself posts the works online for free
> access. Published works that are public domain are often included in toll
> access packages. Not even PubMed has free access to all the works created
> by its own employees.
>
> Public domain and Creative Commons are not necessarily "free of charge".
> Hence if free of charge is essential to a definition of open access,
> neither public domain nor CC are sufficient to achieve OA.
>

Material that is PD or CC BY (or CC BY-SA) can be copied without permission
from the licensor and without charge. (There may be a charge for the
materials involved in copying). Once someone has a copy of a PD or CC BY
work they can copy it indefinitely without payment to the copyright holder.
The only way that a licensor could prevent this free copying is not to make
any copies available, ever.

The price of freedom is that someone should keep and advertise at least one
copy of the original. If all copies happen to be lost (as may happen) then
the work may effectively become "closed" .It is important, therefore, that
copies are kept of all CC0/CC BY. If this is done then the work can never
become closed (unless there is a retrospective change in the law or
copyright, which we should fight).

CC BY gives the following rights. (from
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/)

You are free to:

   - *Share* — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format
   - *Adapt* — remix, transform, and build upon the material
   - for any purpose, even commercially.
   -


<https://freedomdefined.org/>

   - The licensor cannot revoke these freedoms as long as you follow the
   license terms.

An added request: when referring to CC licences please specify which. I
frequently see "published under a CC licence". Some CC licences are very
liberal and others very restrictive. See
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/


P.





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>
> Heather Morrison
>
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