Repeating wrong answers makes them not right. We have discussed this
several times and I cannot see the sense to do this once again.

I have made my point clear in 2012:

https://jlsc-pub.org/articles/abstract/10.7710/2162-3309.1043/

Klaus Graf



2018-03-24 20:26 GMT+01:00 SANFORD G THATCHER <s...@psu.edu>:

> So, Danny, let me ask if you are ok with funders requiring authors to
> publish
> under a CC BY license and waive all rights they otherwise would have to
> have
> input into how and where their writings get translated and how and where
> their
> works are republished (e.g., in edited form that distorts the author's
> meaning
> and associates the author with a cause, ideology, etc. that the author
> finds
> abhorrent)?
>
> Is these rights do not pertain to academic freedom, please explain why.
>
> The same might be asked of those universities that require immediate OA
> posting
> of dissertations, allowing no time for an author to revise it and find a
> publisher for it. Various associations (in history, medieval studies, etc.)
> have adopted recommended embargo periods to deal with this problem. You are
> saying that those associations are wrong to be concerned about this
> problem?
> That this has nothing to do with academic freedom either?
>
> Sandy thatcher
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 04:07 AM Danny Kingsley <da...@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Can we have a quick chat about Academic Freedom? I am frankly fed up with
> this
> being trotted out in multiple discussions in relation to open access. It is
> akin to the PhD student who recently tearfully told me that the
> University’s
> requirement for her to provide a digital version of her thesis in addition
> to
> the hardbound one was a ‘breach of her human rights’. I feel the academic
> freedom argument is moving into similar levels of hysteria.
> >I wrote a blog recently that addresses this issue: Scare campaigns, we
> have
> seen a few<https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p 05>
> https://unlockingresearch-blog.lib.cam.ac.uk/?p 05 (relevant bits below)
> >Usually I hear ‘Academic Freedom’ thrown in in relation to being able to
> choose where to publish. On the SCHOLCOMM and GOAL lists in the discussion
> about Willinsky’s copyright proposal, academic freedom has been thrown into
> the mix again. Given, there is potentially some validity in the statement
> that:
> “Policies that impact academics that are not developed and supported by
> academics are not consistent with academic freedom.” But copyright
> ownership
> (other than the moral right to be identified as an author of a work), and
> the
> place of publication are NOT enshrined in academic freedom.
> >
> >Academic Freedom is not being threatened by copyright licensing
> requirements.
> This is a stupid side issue. We are fiddling while Rome burns. The real
> threat
> to academic freedom is the systematic undermining of expertise and
> academia. As
> the UK justice secretary recently said - “People in this country have had
> enough of experts”
> https://www.ft.com/content/3be49734-29cb-11e6-83e4-abc22d5d108c Let’s not
> even begin to talk about what is happening in the land of stripes and
> stars.
> >
> >Let’s keep focus on the issues that matter.
> >
> >Danny
> >
> >*****************************************
> >The new scare – threats to ‘Academic Freedom’
> >
> >The term ‘Academic Freedom’ comes up a fair bit in discussions about open
> access. In his tweet sent during  the Researcher to Reader conference*,
> one of
> my Advisory Board colleagues Rick Anderson tweeted this
> comment<https://twitter.com/Looptopper/status/968463945190313984>:
> >
> >“Most startling thing said to me in conversation at the #R2RConf:
> >“I wonder how much longer academic freedom will be tolerated in IHEs.”
> (Specific context: authors being allowed to choose where they publish.)
> >
> >In this blog I’d like to pick up on the ‘Academic Freedom’ part of the
> comment (which is not Rick’s, he was quoting).
> >
> >Academic Freedom, according to a summary in the Times Higher
> Education<https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2010/
> 12/21/defining-academic-freedom> is  primarily that “Academic freedom
> means that both faculty members and students can engage in intellectual
> debate without fear of censorship or retaliation”.
> >
> >This definition was based on the American Association of University
> Professors’ (AAUP) Statement on Academic Freedom<https://www.aaup.org/
> report/1940-statement-principles-academic-freedom-and-tenure> which
> includes, quite specifically, “full freedom in research and in the
> publication of results”.
> >
> >Personally I read that as meaning academics should be allowed to publish,
> not that they have full freedom in choosing where.
> >
> >Rick has since contacted the AAUP<https://scholarlykitchen.
> sspnet.org/2018/03/05/open-letter-aaup-faculty-authors-
> full-freedom-publication/> to ask for clarification on this topic. Last
> Friday, he tweeted that the AAUP has declined to revisit the 1940 statement
> to clarify the ‘freedom in publication’ statement in light of evolution of
> scholarly communication since 1940.
> >
> >The reason why the Academic Freedom/ ‘restricting choice of publication’
> threat(s) is so concerning to the research community has changed over time.
> In the past it was essential to be able to publish in specific outlets
> because colleagues would only read certain publications. Those publications
> were effectively the academic ‘voice’. However today, with online
> publication and search engines this argument no longer holds.
> >
> >What does matter however is the publication in certain journals is
> necessary because of the way people are valued and rewarded. The problem is
> not open access, the problem is the reward system to which we are beholden.
> And the commercial publishing industry is fully aware of this.
> >
> >So let’s be clear. Academic Freedom is about freedom of expression rather
> than freedom of publication outlet and ties into Robert Merton’s 1942 norms
> of science <http://www.collier.sts.vt.edu/5424/pdfs/merton_1973.pdf>
> which are:
> >§  “communalism”: all scientists should have common ownership of
> scientific goods (intellectual property), to promote collective
> collaboration; secrecy is the opposite of this norm.
> >§  universalism: scientific validity is independent of the sociopolitical
> status/personal attributes of its participants
> >§  disinterestedness: scientific institutions act for the benefit of a
> common scientific enterprise, rather than for the personal gain of
> individuals within them
> >§  organized scepticism: scientific claims should be exposed to critical
> scrutiny before being accepted: both in methodology and institutional codes
> of conduct.
> >
> >If a publisher is preventing a researcher from publishing in a journal
> based on their funding or institutional policy rather than the content of
> the work being submitted then this is entirely in contravention of all of
> Robert Merton’s norms of science. But the publisher is not, as it happens,
> threatening the Academic Freedom of that author.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dr Danny Kingsley
> >Deputy Director - Scholarly Communication & Research Services
> >Head, Office of Scholarly Communication
> >Cambridge University Library
> >West Road, CB3 9DR
> >e: da...@cam.ac.uk<mailto:da...@cam.ac.uk>
> >p: 01223 747 437
> >m: 07711 500 564
> >t: @dannykay68
> >w: www.osc.cam.ac.uk<http://www.osc.cam.ac.uk/>
> >b: https://unlockingresearch.blog.lib.cam.ac.uk
> >o: orcid.org/0000-0002-3636-5939
> >
> >[/Users/dak45/Library/Containers/com.microsoft.
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>
>
> Sanford G. Thatcher
> Frisco, TX  75034
> https://scholarsphere.psu.edu
>
> "If a book is worth reading, it is worth buying."-John Ruskin (1865)
>
> "The reason why so few good books are written is that so few people
> who can write know anything."-Walter Bagehot (1853)
>
> "Logic, n. The art of thinking and reasoning in strict accordance
> with the limitations and incapacities of the human
> misunderstanding."-Ambrose Bierce (1906)
>
>
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