Come on guys, Mahatma could send the British out of India without war because Britain is and has been a democracy. Salazar was a dictator (a near facist who as a last hurrah converted Goa to Provincia Ultramarina. e.g."Aqui Portugal fala a Emisora de Goa"). "In 1933, Salazar introduced a new constitution which gave him wide powers, establishing an anti-parliamentarian and authoritarian government that would last four decades. Salazar relied on the secret police for fighting the communists and other political movements that opposed the regime. At first the secret police was called PVDE (Polícia de Vigilância e Defesa do Estado). It had a Gestapo-inspired organization, and became better known by the name adopted from 1945 to 1969, Polícia Internacional e de Defesa do Estado (PIDE). The secret police carried out the repression and elimination of dissidents especially those related to the international communist movement or the USSR. Constant references to the near-chaos that prevailed before 1926 served to keep the opposition in check until the 1950s." To say that Freedom Fighters did not suffer in Salazar jails is a travesty of justice. If you need any more information about Salazar fighting for colonialism I would be happy to send more quotes ( not my opinions). "Mog/rag" does not really matter - these are facts goan
--- On Tue, 11/11/08, pravina cacodcar <> wrote: From: pravina cacodcar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [GOAN-NRI] Re: [Goanet] EVENTS: All Goa: Semana de Cultura Portuguesa, etc To: "Oscar Lobo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Received: Tuesday, 11 November, 2008, 12:40 AM If you are professional and rational enough to blame Goa's present state and crime rate on the Freedom Fighters of 47 years ago...then I wm not debating an equal. --- On Mon, 11/10/08, Oscar Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com.au> wrote: From: Oscar Lobo <[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com.au> Subject: RE: [GOAN-NRI] Re: [Goanet] EVENTS: All Goa: Semana de Cultura Portuguesa, etc To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in, [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 8:18 AM Ms. Sinari! You do not have to be so defensive lady! It was Indira Gandhi’s rule that said Land to the tiller. Our land was intact, the mundkars were respectful during the 451 years and unrespectful thereafter and made our land theirs in the name of freedom fighters. No murders, doors could be kept open etc. until the so called freedom fighters came into the picture! If Mahatma Gandhi managed to send away British back home without war, why did Pandit Nehru had to invade Goa via war? Did the freedom fighters instigate this and hurt the soul of Mahatma? I remember a saying “Put your mind in gear before putting mouth/fingers in motion” It is nice to take side of our families and also believe what they say, however, we need to question the 451 years rule and what good things and bad things have happened and weigh them properly. The definition of a professional is to behave as one should and not as one feels. I am sure you know as you may be a professional. However, you need to think before you write. Emotions are good when they are used for the right thing. I could give you a nice bottle of oil if you want to oil the wheels of your carriage to clear up the mess in Goa . Let us work together and as Rene Barretto would say “Together we can make a difference” Cheers Mogh nah fogh asundi OSCAR From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in ] On Behalf Of sinari07 Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in Subject: [GOAN-NRI] Re: [Goanet] EVENTS: All Goa: Semana de Cultura Portuguesa, etc If you were there....what were you doing?...... kissing up to those who plundered your land and took away your freedom? Yes I was not born then ..........but I have heard first hand the hardships my father and many others went through..... you are welcome to come and talk to him and then decide whether his years in prison and the beatings were fake, fun and flip-flop. .....make sure you do not have any oil in your ears! --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in, "Oscar Lobo" <oscarlobo1@ ...> wrote: > > Hi Sinari 07 > > > > When our mother used to put oil in our ears she would sing. > > > > Kanani, Kanani, chodum ghela ranani > > Vatar bazaran hattelee shinani. > > > > Please stop putting oil in our ears. > > > > We were there when they were there in Goa . The question is where you there? > > > > OSCAR > > > > _____ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in [mailto:GOAN- [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.in] On > Behalf Of sinari07 > Sent: Monday, 10 November 2008 4:25 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] s.co.in > Subject: [GOAN-NRI] Re: [Goanet] EVENTS: All Goa: Semana de Cultura > Portuguesa, etc > > > > Nice to sit at a computer and dismiss the sacrifice of Freedom > Fighters as Fake and Funkott. > > It is pure cowardice > > First educate yourself and read up on your history. > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:GOAN- NRI%40yahoogroup s.co.in> s.co.in, > JoeGoaUk <joegoauk@> wrote: > > > > Thanks FN, > > > > I am sure our FFs will not be too pleased to read your post. > > Now, a day they are making big issues out of nothing as if they > have nothing better to do. > > > > They want to wipe out everthing that is Portuguese related. > > e.g. Road/street names, Fundacao Oriente, Portuguese Consulate, > Portuguese culture etc etc > > > > If they really want do something, let them bring our FREEDOM Back. > > > > Nagesh Karmalli, one of the FFs, in his recent speech admitted > saying '...when he see things hapening now-a-days (refering to recent > brutal attack etc)..he felt as if 'Portuguese are back'. > > > > see video (at 4.49 - 6.11) > > http://in.youtube. <http://in.youtube. com/watch? v=jEZKp_32PzI> > com/watch?v= jEZKp_32PzI > > > > Ok, > > > > What could FFs also mean? > > Freedon Fighters > > Fake fighters > > Funkott Faido > > Fun Fighters > > Flip-Flop > > Fantasy football > > Fast Food > > Fast Forward > > Fools forum > > Fun fare > > > > > > > > > > Joegoauk@ > > > > for Goa & NRI related info... > > http://in.groups. <http://in.groups. yahoo.com/ group/GOAN- NRI/> > yahoo.com/group/ GOAN-NRI/ > > For Goan Video Clips > > http://youtube. <http://youtube. com/joeukgoa> com/joeukgoa > > In Goa , Dial 1 0 8 > > For Hospital, Police, Fire etc > > > Find your perfect match today at the new Yahoo!7 Dating. 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