Hi Vivi, Never use the word NEVER.
There was surely a time you did have to bribe if not in cash! think about it. I once made 2 special trips from Bombay (1990), with great financial difficulties then, for the final renewal of my passport to the Pangim passport office. Believe me, I was lost being a Pangimite. I felt guilty sort of to use my influence with a whole lot of musician friends of mine in the vicinity (but NEVER politicians). Finally, a typist outside the office noticed my confused appearance and suggested that I speak to one Dr. (a lawyer) who was ill clad, and this Dr. (many thanks to him I swear) said I should give Rs. 50 to the typist and I'll get my passport within 2 weeks at my door steps. It really did come to my door steps within 2 weeks. Had I met him the first trip I might have saved some money for my family. Not all of us have the time and money to spend. Easier said than done. Only people on top can change the system and not you or me. It really won't make a difference if just one person like you don't bribe. The system has to change from the ROOTS. Kind regards, Joao. Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ From: renebarreto <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 5:33:10 PM Subject: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate 8888888888888888888 8888888888888888 8888888888888888 888888 ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Vivian A. DSouza <socorro...@yahoo. com> To: goans_tanzanite@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tue, March 23, 2010 6:19:10 PM Subject: Re: [goans_tanzanite] Re: [TGF] Re: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate I too have never paid a bribe in Goa. I pulled all my hair out in frustration, but got all my work done. The buck has to stop somewhere. I am told that most of the people paying bribes are our local Goans who have to go to work and cannot afford to come back again and again to get their work done. So giving a bribe seems to be a way of life, and the suggestion to give a bribe is not very subtle. Being retired I guess I can go back again and again, and get the pleasure of frustrating these babus who want bribes. --- On Tue, 3/23/10, renebarreto <goan...@yahoo. co.uk> wrote: From: renebarreto <goan...@yahoo. co.uk> Subject: [goans_tanzanite] Re: [TGF] Re: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate To: goa-go...@yahoogrou ps.com Cc: goan_doctors@ yahoogroups. com, "Goans_Tanzanite" <goans_tanzanite@ yahoogroups. com>, goan-...@yahoogroup s.co.in Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 6:04 AM This is something commendable !! ... I do hope that many more will follow his example . renebarreto Face book http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?ref=name& id=1000003030727 89 BLOG: GOANWORLD > http://worldgoan. blogspot. com Twitter : http://twitter. com/GOANWORLD 8888888888888888888 8888888888888888 8888888888888888 888888 ____________ _________ _________ __ From: Ramamurti Raut Desai <ramamu...@yahoo. com> To: goa-go...@yahoogrou ps.com Sent: Mon, March 22, 2010 10:58:59 PM Subject: Fw: [TGF] Re: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Ramamurti Raut Desai <ramamu...@yahoo. com> To: Sent: Mon, 22 March, 2010 10:18:01 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Re: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate Thank yo Dr. Joe. If Aldrin wants some kind of a help, anywhere in Goa, I shall do so without paying a bribe to anybody in a legal way. Dr. R. P. Raut Desai ramamu...@yahoo. com P.S. If Aldrin is abroad then any of his Kin can contact me and file an affidavit in local mamlatdar's court to obtain a birth certificate of his mother without paying a bribe. ____________ _________ _________ __ From: jose colaco <cola...@yahoo. com> To: goa-go...@yahoogrou ps.com Cc: gmpalaceofasia@ yahoo.com; tjdeso...@yahoo. co.uk Sent: Mon, 22 March, 2010 8:20:35 PM Subject: Re: [TGF] Re: [GOAN-NRI] Birth Certificate renebarreto asked :Is there anything that can be done without a bribe ? ANSWER: Yes...... We have never paid a bribe to anybody anywhere (including in Goa).....and we have secured every single document we wanted. Did we have to wait for them? Did we have to go several times for them? Yes. Did we have to ask our friends in Goa to assist us? Yes ....but we got them. NOT a naya paisa in bribe was paid. RP's advice is the one I would recommend Aldrin takes. Will he have a 3-6 month wait for going through the proper channel? Yes BUT, it is the right thing to do .....and besides ....You never know what you will get from the Bakshish-meisters. jc [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ____________ _________ _________ __ Your Mail works best with the New Yahoo Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Yahoo! Homepage. http://in.yahoo. com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] renebarreto Face book http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?ref=name&id=100000303072789 BLOG: GOANWORLD > http://worldgoan. blogspot. com Twitter : http://twitter. com/GOANWORLD
