goanet-digest Sunday, May 19 2002 Volume 01 : Number 3986
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[Goanet] Science & religion
Re: [Goanet] Article on Shabana Azmi & Narain Kataria
Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
[Goanet] Football-India: Why India isn't good enough
[Goanet] Scientific Method
RE: [Goanet] Goan Scientist Shines in USA
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 12:03:59 +0400
From: "Sunila Muzawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Science & religion
Speaking of science and religion, in many cases we see that organised
religion does try to actually ignore and even subdue overwhelming scientific
observations. For example the case of reincarnation has been proven over and
over again but since it happens to be exactly the opposite of what is
preached by the Church and some other religions, it is not recognised. Read
"Many Masters Many Minds" by Dr.Brian Weiss to learn more about this.
And I read the other day that some historians and scientists now believe
that Christ was a Bodhi Satva (which is a leader-teacher of Buddism in
Buddha's tradition) and that after his resurrection he returned to Kashmir
(which they think is his home place) with his mother and is buried there
next to Mother Mary. In fact the person buried in that particular spot is
known as a recognised saint in Kashmir as well but under some other name (I
forget the name now) . A Western scientist has now requested the current
Farooq Abdullah Govt. for permission to exhume the two graves in Kashmir to
check the DNA to establish the relation between the two persons buried
there. The scientist believes that if this is established, there is
sufficient evidence (and I suppose they have some other evidence as well) to
prove that the person buried there is indeed Jesus. Needless to say that the
Church will never ascribe to this view. However, whether the scientist will
ever be able to exhume the graves is debatable because it is heavily opposed
by some Kashmiris.
And at a yoga lesson I learnt that the Vajrasana, which is the Islamic namaz
(prayer) pose is actually a very scientific technique of keeping your spine
erect and allowing proper digestion and breathing. It is said that if one
practises the Vajrasana regularly during the day (remember namaz is
advocated five times a day) one can be free of some 18 diseases. But quite a
few of my Muslim friends did not know all this. For them the posture was
just another dogma to be followed.
And Goddess Kali is much abused with human/animal sacrifices linked to her.
She is shown as a fiece woman with necklaces of skulls and holding a severed
head in one hand and a sword in the other. The idea of showing this scary
figure and linking her to God was to dispel fear and establish only love.
Since love and fear are emotions that cannot be applied together. But
instead people use Goddess Kali in connection with sacrifices and whatever
and little is done to change this.
And the old temple custom of giving up your girl child to serve the temple
(devdasis) resulted in a flourishing trade of prostituition and female
abuse. Don't know who actually preached it but it was certainly encouraged
by temple priests. Don't know if this actually has anything to do with the
subject, but couldn't resist adding it.
Cheers,
Sunila
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:07:43 +0400
From: "Sunila Muzawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Article on Shabana Azmi & Narain Kataria
So now these idiots who are so obsessed with religion are fighting over it
even in the USA. I would have thought they would have directed their
energies towards consolidating the people of Indian origin to make a force
to reckon with. Instead, small minds work over petty issues and they are
busy trying to fight themselves over religion.
And in the bargain they ridicule the one Muslim person who had the guts to
openly tell Imam Bukhari of the Jama Masjid, New Delhi to get lost when he
gave a call to Muslims in India to fight the jihad against the Americans in
Afghanistan. In fact she said something to the tune of : why doesn't someone
do us a favour and air drop him (the Imam) into Afghanistan, so he can fight
his jihad and the rest of us can get on with our lives. Of course the Imam
could not swallow that and called her a prostitute. And she replied saying
if that is the way he speaks about people, his mind has little about Islam
in it.
Incidentally she is also the lone Muslim woman who had the guts to go on
record on television and advocate an uniform civil code rather than the
current many religious related personal laws which only serve to divide the
Indian people.
Okay, I am a big fan of her (she is one of the best actresses in Bollywood
and if you have seen "Arth" you will know what I mean) but I do not agree
with a lot of things she says especially with her Communist connections. But
I have no doubt in my mind that India would be a much better country with a
million Shabana's rather than the same of the Imam's or the Singhal's.
Anyway, I do agree with Viv's smart democratic comments.
Cheers,
Sunila
>From: George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Goanet] Article on Shabana Azmi & Narain Kataria
>Date: Sat, 18 May 2002 15:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
>
>From the South Asia Citizens Wire Dispatch #1 | 18 May 2002
>http://www.mnet.fr
>
>For Information & news on the Gujarat Carnage visit:
>http://www.onlinevolunteers.org/gujarat/
>
>__________________________
>
>1. European Parliament Concern over violence in the Indian state of Gujarat
>2. India: Chhote Modi Lives up to Bade Modi's Reputation
>3. India: Memorandum from women's groups May 1, 2002
>4. India: Suggestions For Medical Teams. Doctors Needed for Gujarat
>5. Gujarat Appeal
>6. Politics, Religion and Our Ailing Public Institutions (J B D'Souza)
>7. Yankee Hindutva's Intellectual.
>Who is Narain Kataria and why is he after Shabana Azmi? (Vijay Prashad)
>
>#7.
>
>Yankee Hindutva's Intellectual.
>Who is Narain Kataria and why is he after Shabana Azmi?
>
>Vijay Prashad
>Little India
>17 May 2002.
>
>Narain Kataria's Indian Americans for Truth and Fairness in Media (IATFM)
>sends out a notice that
>it will conduct a protest of a book reading in New York on 21 May 2002. The
>note threatens the
>reading itself, but principally its most well known participant, the film
>star Shabana Azmi.
>
>Shabana Azmi, the note fulminates, "is a strange blend of a fundamentalist
>Moslem woman and a
>diehard Communist, out to defame Hindus and tarnish the image of India."
>Furthermore, "this crafty
>
>woman suffers from Hindu phobia and needs urgent counseling."
>
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:14:31 +0400
From: "Sunila Muzawar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
For someone who is totally against organised religion, that is very tempting
! ;-) In any case, if all in India gave up their religion, everyone would
focus on real issues like the economy, education, infrastructure, health,
sanitation, and development. Instead, with the current obsession with
organised religion we dig ourselves into a pit.
Cheers,
Sunila
>From: ash k <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: [Goanet] MESSAGE TO ALL GOANS!
>Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 02:15:11 -0700 (PDT)
>
>To all Goans: "Vote for BJP and give up your
>RELIGION!"
>
>ash
>
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 13:12:52 +0200
From: Eustaquio Santimano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Football-India: Why India isn't good enough
FOOTBALL/WORLD CUP COUNTDOWN
Why India isn't good enough
ROHIT BRIJNATH
"PHYSICS," said the speaker. Physics? we asked. What do Newton and gang
have to do with football?
The place was the Oberoi Grand Hotel. The time, a decade ago. The
subject, why India isn't a footballing power. And the speaker, P. K.
Banerjee, once player, then coach, always raconteur.
Of course, 'physics' had nothing to do with it. With due deference to
the enlightened and amusing PK, it was merely a case of mangled
pronunciation.
What he meant was "physique". Or rather the lack of it, which in his
opinion was one of the primary reasons why India was unable to compete
on the world stage.
Full article: http://www.tssonnet.com/tss2520/25200400.htm
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 04:39:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: "J. Almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Goanet] Scientific Method
Dear Santosh,
As a scientist I am interested in refutation of error.
Either a conjecture is refuted or it is not. If you
can unequivocally refute the factual claims relating
to the death of the historical Jesus, then I urge you
to take up the matter with historical experts. Present
your unequivocal and compelling evidence in
refutation, take the consensus of historical
scholarship with you, and I will join you gladly.
Attempting refutation of conjectures through
compelling evidence is Scientific Method. The rest is
not.
As a Christian, I am not required to believe anything
contradicted by evidence.
Regards,
Joel Almeida
PS You may have as much space for your historical
evidence as you require: not just a few sentences or a para.
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Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:34:35 GMT
From: Eddie Fernandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [Goanet] Goan Scientist Shines in USA
Seby,
Check out People Magazine, 15 Apr. 2002 for the article and photographs.
Also check:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&q=Pocketpaks+D%27Souza&btnG=Google+Search
Eddie
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>From GoaNet-UK weekly newsletter Issue 2002-15. Apr. 12, 2002 at
www.goacom.com/goanet-uk
15 April. People Magazine. Dr Richard W. D'Souza wasn't up for an award on
Oscar night. But he became one of the evening's big winners after Sandra
Bullock stopped for a television interview on the red carpet, held up a
package of the Cool Mint Listerine PocketPaks D'Souza invented, and
announced, "I love these!" Inspired in 1996 by an edible paper he had seen
in Japan, D'Souza, a Pfizer vice president who immigrated to the U.S. from
Pakistan in 1978, spent 18 months with a team of dozens of scientists
creating the strip. "First it stuck to the roof of our mouths," he says.
"Then it was too brittle, and at times it was so strong people's eyes would
tear up." Today D'Souza, 47 lives in Randolph, N.J., with his homemaker
wife, Venetia, 46, son Russell, 17, and fraternal twins Adrian and Alicia,
16. Full text at:
http://people.aol.com/people/magazine/tableofcontents/0,10713,,00.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of Bradley n Clive
Sent: 19 May 2002 04:18
To: GoaNet
Subject: [Goanet] Goan Scientist Shines in USA
If anyone has more details please do share but here is
what I just found out.
Richard W. D'souza, { who is a Goan origin } and
migrated to the US, from Pakistan in 1978, invented
the Cool Mint Listerine Pocketpaks and lauched it in
October 2001.
Pocketpaks has become the fastest selling mouth
freshner generating more than $100 million in sales.
D'souza was the VP of Pfizer.
D'souza lives in New Jersey with his wife Venetia, son
Russell and fraternal twins Adrian & Alicia.
D'souza is also nicknamed as " Cool Dad "
Seby Mascarenhas
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Bradley, CJ, Greta & Seby
Maryland, USA.
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