goanet-digest Monday, June 24 2002 Volume 01 : Number 4111
----------------------------------------------------------------------------- In this issue: Re: [Goanet] 10 Questions- Cecil Pinto on 'Child Naming Patterns among Goan Ca Re: [Goanet] judeo [Goanet] Goa gives its IT initiatives a push [Goanet] FYI: From Anant Patwardhan Re: [Goanet] 19 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS RE: [Goanet] judeo [Goanet] SAO JOAO 2002 CELEBRATED IN GOA [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS:Once sand-dunes are damaged... See end of digest for information on subscribing/unsusbcribing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 16:16:37 -0000 From: "santoshhelekar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] 10 Questions- Cecil Pinto on 'Child Naming Patterns among Goan Ca - --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 10 Questions by Ree Coh > > Firstly, let us examine the legend of the 'creation' of Goa. >According to the Vedas, Lord Saptoshwar threw a trident into the >Arabian Sea, hoping to catch the equally mythical Goan Crabs. The >trident missed its mark and landed in interior North Karnataka, close >to where the Dupont Nylon 66 plant is currently situated. Three >clumps of earth thus shot up from the ground and landed near the >Arabian Sea. Lord Saptoshwar immediately christened them Govapuri, >Bhajipuri and Shrikandpuri. These were later re-christened by the >Portuguese as Goa, Daman and Diu. > >..................................................................... > > Now the Portuguese changed all this. They gave the Catholics names. >And they converted many of the Hindus to Catholics and gave them >names too. It was time of much merriment among the Portuguese. They >would catch some helpless victim and drag him into the town square. >Then they would take turns thinking up names. I have dedicated a >whole chapter of my book to this colourful process. Please keep in >mind that at the time the Capital City of Goa was not Panjim. It was >Benaulim, which remains a perpetual stronghold of the Catholics with >most curious first names, even at the Assembly level. British Prime >Ministers, Walt Disney characters... > Dear Cecil: That was simply outstanding and beautiful! The above two paragraphs are veritable gems. I will ask President Pandurang to name you the Comedian Laureate of Chimbel. Please note that I said "Comedian", not just an ordinary "humorist" like Art Buchwald. Cheers, Santosh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:22:38 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Goanet] judeo Probably this is a relic of the inquisition when Jews were burned at the stake. This is a blot on the Catholic Church, the Papacy and the two countries Portugal and Spain whe3re this was widely practiced. The Portuguese brought this custom to Goa and there was a centre where the extermination of the Jews was plotted from. Maybe Pundit Josi Colago will give you his opinion as he knows everything about nothing. Edgar Martins ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 19:36:49 +0300 From: Laxman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Goa gives its IT initiatives a push Friends, Various IT projects were in the pipeline. So far nothing seems to be moving. It is only the promises by politicians. Let's hope Parrikar Govt. implements such projects for the welfare of Goans student community, most of who go outside Goa for better education. NRI Goans too have to pay hefty donation and the amount paid is mostly to Educational Institutions outside Goa. Why not we Goans do something and save such a drain of outflow of funds to other states? It is interesting to note that International Institute of Information Technology (IIIT)is in pipeline too. This as I understand is based on similar model of Indian Institute of Technology (IIT). Let's hope this happen. Best Regards Laxman Please read the following extract from Times of India. PANAJI: From a hi-tech habitat to an "IT resort", tiny Goa has big plans for its info-tech sector. Major initiatives in the pipeline include a hi-tech habitat at Dona Paula on 70 acres of government land. Officials say it is expected to create employment for about 10,000 people. The state government announced that Software Technology Parks of India is interested in setting up high-speed data communication in the hi-tech habitat, costing about Rs.47.5 million. The hi-tech habitat will be built as a joint venture between the Goa government and a private party. The state's efforts to identify the joint venture partner are at "an advanced stage of finalisation", an official said. Another plan is for a Cyber City. It is proposed at the Mandrem- Morjim Plateau, a rustic beachside plateau some 40 km from here, on 625 acres of private land. Land costing about Rs.22.5 million is under acquisition. The government said it would bear the cost of land and the joint venture partner would meet other fund requirements. There are also plans for an "IT resort" on the Mandrem-Harmal Plateau in Pernem that will come up on 44 acres of government land. The government said the unique resort would cater to IT professionals, blending work and leisure. On the e-governance front, Goa has proposed the setting-up of a wide area network connecting small administrative units to the district headquarters and capital Panaji. The plan is to evolve integrated service centres to provide various types of services at one point. Also on the drawing board is an international institute of IT. Modelled on the prestigious Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs), it will have its own campus, the official said. Already, about 3,800 government employees have been trained in the use of computers. http://timesofindia/articleshow.asp?art_ID=13586381 ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 2002 17:12:30 -0000 From: "Rohit Shukla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] FYI: From Anant Patwardhan > > Press UPDATE: > > Censor Board's war on "WAR AND PEACE" > > > > > > Our worst fears have come true. We had suspected that the >Censor > > Board's > > delay in appointing an examining committee to officially view >our > > video War > > and Peace and the extraordinary measures taken to ban even > > officially > > sanctioned non-commercial screenings in the interim, were an > > ominous sign. > > We felt that contrary to norms, there was no level playing >field > > and far > > from being in the hands of objective government officials, we >were > > up > > against a very interested party with a strong political >agenda. > > > > War and Peace had won the Best Film/Video of the Festival at >the > > Mumbai > > International Film Festival, and the Films Division of >India > > (which comes > > under the Ministry for Information and Broadcasting) attempted >to > > show it > > along with other award winning films at their festival in >Kolkata. > > The > > Regional Officer of the Censor Board in Mumbai boasted to us >that > > he would > > stop the Kolkata screening. The next day while other films >which > > had no > > censor clearance were shown, the inaugural film War and Peace >was > > withdrawn. The Kolkata press was duly told that the "film had >not > > arrived" > > despite the fact that we had a receipt to prove the >contrary. > > > > The examining committee of the Censor Board finally saw the >film on > > 6 June. > > After the screening though I was present, I was informed >that > > contrary to > > norms, the committee members would not discuss anything with >me as > > they > > could not reach consensus. The following week the final >outcome was > > given > > to me in writing. It makes remarkable reading. The cuts >demanded > > are > > unprecedented and the methodical, single-minded approach is > > inconsistent > > with that of a group that could not reach consensus. > > > > Cut No.1 sounds reasonable. It is: "Delete the visuals of >burning > > Indian > > flag". This scene depicting Pakistani jingoism balances >sequences > > of Indian > > jingoism. But obviously the Censor Board has no objection to >scenes > > showing > > the burning Pakistani flag. "War and Peace" consistently >exposes > > war-mongers and applauds peace lovers on both sides of the >border. > > This is > > clearly not something the Censor appreciates. > > > > Cut No. 2 "Delete the entire sequence with visuals and >dialogues > > spoken by > > the Dalit leader" refers to a sequence in which a Dalit > > neo-Buddhist argues > > that it is a travesty that nuclear tests were carried out on > > Buddha's > > birthday and that the Buddha's name was used as a military >code to > > mark the > > tests despite the fact that the Buddha has always been >unarmed. > > > > Cut No. 3 is a demand to cut a Dalit song which describes >the > > killing of > > Mahatma Gandhi by a Brahmin. So now the Censor feels bold >enough to > > muzzle > > the voices of those whom our caste system oppressed for >centuries, > > even > > when they merely make factual statements ! > > > > Cut No.4 is an order to cut a sentence by a leading scientist >that > > "China > > is our next possible enemy". This common justification for >our > > nuclear > > weapons was endlessly repeated in the media by our >politicians > > including > > most famously, by our Defense Minister. > > > > Cut No.5 is a predictable though thoroughly unjustifiable >demand: > > "Delete > > the visuals and dialogues of entire Tehelka episode wherever >it > > occurs in > > the film." Over 4 hours of these Tehelka tapes showing >hidden > > camera > > footage of corrupt arms deals were broadcast nationally at >prime > > time. The > > tiny extracts I used are a mere reference to what the public >saw at > > length > > on almost every channel. Again, the Censor Board's bias is >clear. > > Tehelka > > is not allowable because it depicts members of the ruling > > coalition, but my > > reference to the Bofors arms scandal is deemed OK as it >indicts the > > > > Opposition ! > > > > Cut No.6 is the clincher. Under the heading GENERAL is the >amazing > > diktat: > > "Delete the entire visuals and dialogues spoken by Political > > Leaders > > including Minister and Prime Minister." The censor board has >deemed > > it > > unnecessary to pinpoint exactly which leader's visuals and > > dialogues they > > disliked so much that the public should be protected by >suitable > > deletions. > > The heading GENERAL applies to all. The Censor Board deems >it > > illegal to > > report the speeches of Ministers, Prime Ministers and all >Political > > > > Leaders. Do we have a new Secrecy Act? Should Messrs Vajpayee, >etc > > wear a > > mask from now on, and speak only in code? Or should only those >who > > elevate > > every word of politicians into gospel and visualize these > > politicians only > > when they are the politician's wearing halos, be allowed to >film ? > > > > War and Peace begins and ends with the ideas of Mahatma >Gandhi. > > (Perhaps > > this too is now illegal as it could come under the Cut No.6 > > dispensation). > > Focusing on the danger of nuclear war in the Indian >subcontinent > > the video > > goes on to describe the problems faced by people living near > > nuclear > > testing and mining sites, the horror of Hiroshima and >Nagasaki, the > > > > culpability of the USA in using Atom bombs on a nation that >was > > about to > > surrender, the globalization of the arms trade, but most of >all it > > derives > > its power and emotional appeal from the growing movement for >peace > > both in > > India and in Pakistan. Unfortunately in both countries there >is an > > invisible force that does not want peace, a force that has >come to > > power > > precisely by spreading divisiveness within the country and >the > > sustained > > threat of war outside it. This force has cynically used >concepts of > > > > religion and patriotism to hide its own hate-corrupted psyche >and > > has > > sought to muzzle the voices of all those who speak out for >health, > > harmony > > and peace. > > > > So it will not be enough to demand merely that films like "War >and > > Peace" > > be passed without cuts. Officials of the Censor Board must be >made > > to > > understand that their brief cannot be to wield their scissors >in > > the > > interests of particular ideologies. We must demand that the >Censor > > Board > > and all the vital institutions in our country be freed from >the > > undemocratic grip of "the invisible force". > > > > > > > > > > Anand Patwardhan 14 June 2002 _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/ ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jun 2002 17:25:48 -0000 From: "Rohit Shukla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] 19 JUNE: GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS So, Mr. Nagesh Bhatcar, What does the association between the disgraced Mr. Narendra Modi and opportunist 'snake in the grass', Mr. Manohar Parrikar mean? Wake up guys, and smell the rat! Rohit. On Wed, 19 Jun 2002 Joel D'Souza wrote : >GOACOM NEWS CLIPPINGS >19 June 2002 > >"GOA VICTORY IS A TURNING POINT": The Gujarat Chief Minister, Mr >Narendra Modi, has said that the Bharatiya Janata Party's victory >in Goa election is the beginning of the destruction of the >Congress party's dreams in future elections in the country. >Talking to Goan reporters after inaugurating the Rs.4.22-crore >rehabilitation township project at Devgad on Monday, Mr Modi >indicated the BJP victory in Goa would be an election plank in >Gujarat, which is expected to go to polls in October. (NT) > _________________________________________________________ There is always a better job for you at Monsterindia.com. Go now http://monsterindia.com/rediffin/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 20:06:43 +0100 From: "Eddie Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [Goanet] judeo - -----Original Message----- From: gilbert menezes Sent: 24 June 2002 03:07 Folks, for possibly hundreds of years, there was a tradition to burn a "Judeo"(made of cloth and stuffed with straw and fireworks) on the feast of Sao Joao , which is today. I think the church was mainly responsible for putting an end to this custom. Does anyone know how this custom originated, and did the judeo signify Judas, or a Jew? regards--Gilbert. *************************** Source: The Jerusalem Post. 12 July 1995 Headline: India cancels 'antisemitic' festival Text: The Indian government has withdrawn funding from the Christian celebration of Judeo, a local custom which has antisemitic overtones. Judeo is traditionally celebrated on June 23 every year. But the "Clube Nationale" in Panaji, Goa, didn't mark the event this year. Club president Francisco Martins said that several Goan citizens had protested against the celebrations. While pointing out that most people were unaware that the festival was antisemitic, Martins said: "We feel this is a positive step as we do not have anything against the Jews." Judeo's origins go back to Portugal's 450 years of colonial rule over Goa. On the eve of the feast of John the Baptist, a procession would consign a straw-and-cloth effigy to a bonfire amid cheers. Local political sources speculate that India's decision is due to the recent normalization of ties with Israel. *************************** No idea of the origin of the custom but I gather that it was the practice to burn the effigy with cries of “Kill The Jew!” This was obviously not PC. It is possible that discreet pressure was brought to bear to end the ceremony – perhaps someone in Goa could ask Francisco Martins. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:37:19 +0530 From: "Joel D'Souza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] SAO JOAO 2002 CELEBRATED IN GOA The feast of St John, the Baptist, one of Goa's most popular saints, was celebrated in Goa on June 24. We have a small photo-feature on the grand, monsoon festival. Please check at http://www.goacom.com/news/clippings/SaoJoao2002/Sao%20Joao.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 00:59:39 +0530 (IST) From: Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] 10QUESTIONS:Once sand-dunes are damaged... 10QUESTIONS :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::DR KASTURI DESAI ONCE SAND-DUNES ARE DAMAGED, AND A CONCRETE JUNGLE COMES, WHAT CAN BE DONE? Ponda Educational Society College (Farmagudi) botany lecturer Dr Kasturi Desai is a familiar figure to those involved in environmental issues in Goa. Says she: "I am convinced that my prime work as a teacher is to bring awareness about different aspects of nature and natural resources to different section of public besides school and college students." Desai, incidentally of Bengali origins but a daughter-in-law of Goa, has done more for Goa's environment than many Goans. She has been vocal against plastic littering, and started a strong movement against plastic carry-bags with the help of the citizens of Ponda since 1991. Recently, she authored a large-size well-illustrated 109 page book 'Sand Dune Vegetation of Goa: Conservation and Management'. In an interview with Frederick Noronha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dr Desai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> explains why sand-dunes are far more useful than their images connote -- vast amounts of shifting sand, barren to plants and hostile to human inhabitants. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do Goans understand the importance of sand-dunes yet, in your view? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a very little awareness about the importance of sand dunes. Only a few scientists and activists are talking about coastal dunes. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What are the mainly under-appreciated utilities of sand-dunes? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- The dune system is a fragile ecosystem which act as barriers to storms and waves. If this ecosystem is not protected the sea enters the land, causing erosion of the coast. Moreover, if not protected by the vegetation the inland desertification increase. It maintains the ground water level. Valuable constructions get damaged in due course of time due to erosion of land. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which other states in the rest of the country have a better (compared to Goa) understanding of sand-dunes? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- As such the study of sand dunes was never taken up earlier in any states of India. Only in 1991 sand dunes were included in CRZ I (coastal regulation zone-I, which offers environmental protection). Of course isolated studies were done by Dr. T. Anand Rao and others on the entire coast of India. Some studies were done by Dr.Arvind G. Untawale from N.I.O. But it was only of academic interest. Now some of the coastal universities are taking up studies on the sand dune ecosystem but much work has to be done. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What, if anything, made this work difficult and challenging? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This work is the first of its kind in the entire country wherein information about sand dunes all over the world, their classification, characteristic features, locations, plants growing on them, their flowering and fruiting time, nursery techniques have been included. This information is surely going to be useful to general public, academicians, non-governmental and governmental organisations. Different methods of conservation and management techniques undertaken in different parts of the world have also been included. There is an extensive literature survey on the coastal sand dunes. The appendix includes several India and foreign laws and regulation. Recommendations of a seminar on the 'significance of coastal sand dune vegetation' are also included. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which villages in Goa still have the best sand-dunes remaining? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Galgibag (in Canacona), a part of Varca (Salcete), Mandrem and Keri (Pernem) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In which areas of Goa have the sand-dunes got really destroyed? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stretches between Cansaulim to Cavelossim, except isolated small patches, Baina, Anjuna, Calangute, and Baga. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- What were your most interesting or unusual experiences while putting together this book? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- During my visits to different beaches when I went to Mandrem, I was astonished to find such a virgin area still exists in Goa. It is also surprising that even local people never gave any importance to this ecosystem, though unknowingly their houses were well behind the dunes except in Pollem where the village almost on the beach. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- It appears that more the legislation over the sand-dunes, the more the destruction we're seeing. On the other hand, when there was little or no regulation, there was no damage either. Why is this so? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Decisions making with regard to natural resources is left to bureaucracy and politicians. The local community is in the dark about the decicisions taken in the name of development. With greater emphasis on starred tourism beaches have become easy target in the last three decades. It was only in 1991 that regulations came in the wake of the realization about the significance of this ecosystem. But the speed of so called development and activities had already damaged the system. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why did you choose this subject and how did you first get involved? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In 1987-88 I approached (National Institute of Oceanography, Goa scientist) Dr. Aravind G. Untawale for working under him for my Ph.D.He asked me to take up the study of sanddune vegetation. I realized that this field was totally virgin and working on them would be very challanging. I also found this ecosystem was totally neglected and scientific study is necessary as Goa has a long beautiful coastline. So, in 1989, I started the study by visiting all the beaches of Goa. After completing my thesis in 1996, I found that my contribution was just limited for a doctoral degree and hence to bring awareness I had to work towards a book. - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- You say the damage of sandunes on the Bardez coast is "beyond repair. Could you elaborate? - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bardez Taluka was first to get hotels on the beaches. Once the dunes are damaged and there is all concrete jungle on the beach itself what can be done? Can you demand for demolition of the large establishments? Moreover, at places like Calangute, even the plantation of Casuarina trees were at faulty areas which damaged the fore and mid-dunes. And if these primary dunes are not protected, the protective hind dunes cannot be formed. Way back in 70s, beaches like Calangute, Baga, Anjuna became world famous for several reasons. Due to this popularity, tourism related business came up on the beaches itself thus destroying all natural system. (ENDS) ------------------------------ End of goanet-digest V1 #4111 ***************************** =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--W-E-B--S-I-T-E--=-=-= To Subscribe/Unsubscribe from GoaNet Digest | http://goacom.com/goanet ====================================================================== * Send e=mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NOT [EMAIL PROTECTED]) * Leave SUBJECT blank <--- Commom Mistake !! * On first line of the BODY of your message, type: subscribe goanet-digest YOUR.EMAIL OR unsubscribe goanet-digest YOUR.EMAIL DO NOT include the entire digest when replying to goanet !!!!!! Questions/Problems? Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=