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This is turning into an interesting discussion.
While we are about name changes we should also approach our Goa leaders about changing the name of Goa to its original name of Gomantak or Govarashtra (Gova for short).
Won't this be in keeping with the name changes of Mumbai, Chennai and Kolkata?
Tim de Mello
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From: "Sunila Muzawar" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [GOANET] Panaji... Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 23:20:39 +0400_________________________________________________________________
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Jorge, you do make sense. However, shouldn't the spelling be Ponnjey or Ponnjay or even Punnjay ? Otherwise we will have yet another badly pronounced name for our beautiful capital. And while we are at it, we could also alter the horribly English sounding names given to all other Goan places. E.g. Calangute should be Kolngutey and Mapusa should be Mhapshyanh and Margao should be Madgaon, etc. What a relief that would be to finally get rid of the pseudo westernisation of Goan names. While we are at it, maybe we could change the spelling of our language name from Konkani to Konknii. ;-)
Incidentally, Bhaji is a Konkani word. However, Viva is not a Konkani word as far as I know. Don't have any problem with either word though. Wonder why some do ! Jai Goa ! Jai Hind ! Sunila
From: "Jorge/Livia de Abreu Noronha" Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Subject: Re: [GOANET] Panaji... Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:52:05 +0100
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----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick Noronha To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:24 PM Subject: [GOANET] Panaji...
> > Actually, Panaji (with the second 'a' silent, as it is pronounced) is > rather close to the Portuguese term Pangim (with the 'm' almost > silent). Panjim, preferred by English-language speakers, seems to be of > uncertain origins. If we want to go forward via the past, shouldn't we > all think about the locally more-authentic 'Ponjje'? FN >
Actually, it should never have been "Panaji" in Roman characters. If one observes its Devnagari spelling, the correct transliteration in Roman should be "Ponnji", and this is exactly how we always called the city in "amchi bhas". "Ponnje" (and not "Ponjje" as Fred writes) is the oblique form of "Ponnji", so "I am in Panjim" and "I am going to Panjim" is in Konkani "Hanv Ponnje asam" and "Hanv Ponnje vetam", "I am from Panjim" is "Hanv Ponnjecho (Ponnjechi, Ponnjechem)" or "Kanv Ponnjekar (Ponnjekarn)", "I came from Panjim" is "Hanv Ponnje-thaun ailom (ailim, ailem)", and "My birthplace is Panjim" is "Mojea zolmacho ganv (or Mozo zolmganv) Ponnji".
How about making a representation to the councillors (future corporators) of the capital city of Goa to officially change the name of the city to PONNJI?
Jorge
> > --__--__-- > > > > Message: 4 > > From: > > To: > > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 2:44:15 -0500 > > Subject: [GOANET] Re: referendum for panjim > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Dear Goan Brothers & Sisters, > > > > This "PANAJI" sounds more like "BHAJI". Maybe it's time for all Goans > > to write to their MLA's that "PANAJI" should be cast to the rubbish bin > > for the original and beautiful sounding name we always had and remember > > about - PANJIM. > > > > Let us all strive to keep all these "JI'S" sounding names out of > > GOA. If not GOA may soon be called 'GOAJI". Now you know what that > > means. The death of GOA!! > > > > VIVA GOA! VIVA THE INDEPENDENCE OF GOA!! > > > > GOA FOR GOANS FIRST. > > > > Ivor (Samora). > > WANT TO check out which mailing lists you could subscribe to? Send a blank email message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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