Since Goa is a potpouri of cultures let us now accept capitalistic Jazz as a part of our culture (Thanks to Goans in Mumbai). I hope this will solve the name calling issue.:))
--- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 10 Aug 2003, [iso-8859-1] Bernado Colaco > wrote: > > I wonder when Jazz music coming from capitalism > was a > > part of Goan culture? Ok, Sodam chintalim vehtelem > > munon.... was a class act! > > Cola�o > > > --- Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Great articles on the Goan culture in Bombay in > the > > > 1950-1970 and > > > beyond. > > > I do wish Bernard Colaco of ?UK / ?Macau and > > > Constantino Xavier of > > > Portugal will read these articles and know about > > > Goan culture and the > > > artists in the Bombay / Mumbai Diaspora. > Regards, GL > > Bernado at his usual xenophobic self. (Even if he > hasn't explained his > real identity, and why he claims to be based in > London while getting his > posts put out via Macau. Neither his claims to know > what pre-1961 Goan > really was, while later claiming he was born > post-1961.) > > *What* is Goan culture? What is the culture of Goans > today? Is it > something frozen in time? Is it something restricted > to only one > language? (Prof Peter Nazareth comments that Goans > write in 13 > languages.) > > If he follow Bernado's twisted logic of "cultural > purity" we could next > be arguing that man originated in Goa... > > Or is it something that today encompasses various > continents, various > languages, and the influences that have come to set > on this tiny place on > planet earth? > > To one's mind, Goa is a melting pot (of various > people, coming in at > different points of time, and various rulers or > immigrants or invaders, > who have shaped the region into being what it is). > We are a fruit salad > of sorts, and there's nothing wrong with that. Over > the centuries, > different groups have been negotiating cultural and > physical space with > each other, sometimes peacefully and sometimes > violently. > > As much as we claim to have wrong done to ourselves, > if we dig deep enough > we'd find that our own groups have wronged others in > the past. > > The earlier we acknowledge this reality the better. > > To argue that Jazz cannot have anything to do with > Goa is a few steps away > from saying that the Mando cannot be really Goan, > since it was first sung > only sometime around the nineteenth century and, in > any case, has a range > of global influences ranging from the Portuguese and > the European to the > Far East Asian costumes the women-singers wore. Or, > it is close to an > argument that chief minister Parrikar recently > repeated, that English > *cannot* be a legit language in Goa because of its > foreign origins. > > All stem from a similar set of insecurities, and a > desire to dominate by > defining things in a way convenient to oneself. > > FN > > __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/yoffer.html ########################################################################## # Send submissions for Goanet to [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # PLEASE remember to stay on-topic (related to Goa), and avoid top-posts # # More details on Goanet at http://joingoanet.shorturl.com/ # # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ##########################################################################
