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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004, Neal Pinto wrote:

My question was an inquiry on the "popular opinion" of Hindus
regarding the employment of the caste system by Catholics in Goa.  In
other words, what does the average Hindu think of a Goan Catholic
trying to call himself a Brahmin?

Neal, Interesting question. I think nobody answered it because it's a difficult question to answer. Fools rush in where... and so I'm going to try. This answer is based on episodic information, which may or may not be a reflection of the wider reality.


        First, with the episodic narration:

        * Two days back, we were sitting in Cafe Prakash, when a
        Hindu friend from Ponda remarked that Catholics, particularly
        Brahmins, seem to have a far greater attachment and pride
        in caste attachments then their Hindu counterparts.
        I am in no position to vouch for the veracity of this
        statement. One would need to understand how it works in
        both communities, and then one's own filters and biases
        would also play a role in evaluating the reality.

        * Some five years back maybe, I was talking to a journalistic
        colleague, actually a very perceptive and politically-savvy
        editor. When the issue of names, conversions and the like
        came up, the editor and his family was more than surprised
        to note that conversions in Goa (like in Kerala, but unlike
        most of the rest of India) had taken place from even among
        the so-called "upper" castes. In other parts of India,
        Christian conversions are seen as a lower-caste phenomenon.
        Which is why, I believe, the Hindutva fundamentalist elements
        in places like Gujarat and Orissa can treat converts almost
        with contempt, and their you-cant-convert-without-the-state's
        -permission logic.

        * One trend of analysis views the United Goans Party
        (quite unlike as the average Catholic would read it) as an
        alliance of sorts between the "upper caste" Hindu and the
        Catholic. A similar interpretation is sometimes given to
        the pro-Konkani campaign. See, for example, Ashok Row Kavi's
        writings in The Week around 1987.

        * I think there's some a lot of these-guys-are-quite-like-us
        kind of solidarity within similar castes across the
        religious divide. It would be interesting to study how
        caste plays up with or against religion.

        * In Cuncolim, during the (caste-based) conflict there,
        there was an element of 'solidarity' between the
        Chardos-Kshatriyas. If one recalls rightly, there were
        some statements of support from one to the other.

At the sub-altern level too, people tend to build bridges across caste. But the issue is rather complex and perhaps in need of more academic research. FN



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