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George, You need to do a lot more homework and catching up after your extended trip to Mars. It is obvious your anti-American sentiment is clouding your facts and judgement. Please see my comments below under Responses: --- George Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ########################################################################## > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # Want to check the archives? > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ########################################################################## > > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > George, > > > > Which planet did you just arrive here from? > George: Planet earth where we get truth from non-Fox News sources. Truth has already prevailed and it is not the right-wing version. Response: No credible news sources support your version, George, which is why the problem continues to fester and people continue to die. > > > Israel should "leave" before negotiations can > begin? Leave and go where? > >George: Back to pre-1967 borders. Response: Whew! I'm glad you cleared that up. I thought you said you wanted them to leave Israel. Unfortunately they will not give back any land they won while defending themselves unless the Palestinians accept their right to exist in peace and security. Unfortunately, since you have just returned from your trip into space, the Islamic militants do not want a 2 state solution. > > > Don't you know anything about how and why Israel > was formed? > George: There is a reason present day Palestinians fight to recover what even hard-core Israeli apologists acknowledge are "occupied territories". > The Palestinians should not be humiliated to negotiate when an outsider is staying in their living room. Kick the intruder out and then negotiate. Arafat was extremely accommodating in trying to negotiate while Israeli genocide is being committed in HIS house. No different than what the USA occupying force (a term even Bush used) is doing to innocent civilians in Iraq while calling them insurgents. Response: The Palestinians were given part of a house in 1947, but they wanted the whole house, and brought a bunch of goondas to help them. Unfortunately, the Israelis routed them and the goondas, and now "occupy" some of what he had. They cannot get any of it back until they agrees to behave themselves in future, which they have refused to do. And they still want the whole house. So the low grade conflict will continue until they behave themselves and stop targeting innocent civilians. Did you know they target innocent civilians, George, using suicide bombers to do so? How would you like that happen to your friends and family? Soon there will be a wall they cannot cross. Since you are still catching up with events, you may not have heard that there was a guy named Saddam Hussein in Iraq who killed hundreds of thousands of his friends and neighbors as well as innocent Iraqis, and Bush decided to kick the bully out. Some of his friends are still fighting, but soon they will be gone as well, and the Israelis will have some freedom and democracy for a change. I hope you don't mind, George, or are you also against freedom and democracy for the Iraqis. Is that why you are such a staunch anti-American, George? > > Regards, > George > > >