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Santosh, Please calm down and accept my apologies for personalizing my comments on the Gandhi quotes, which was the wrong thing to do. In my Thanksgiving Greeting I did admit that my patience with emotional outbursts was still a work in progress. But am I "demonizing" you when I point out the fact that you avoid any specific responses to my detailed postings on Iraq, dismissing them imperiously in their entirety as "spurious"? I just don't get it. However, aside from the personalization that I have apologized for and should have avoided, how about the points I made, which were a literal interpretation of what the Gandhi quotes you posted would have meant to the Chinese and the Jews when dealing with the Japanese Imperialists and the German Nazis, and to India when dealing with the Japanese? On the one hand you describe my interpretations of Gandhi as "misguided" (I think you are "demonizing" me here!) and seem to agree with a literal interpretation of Gandhi's quotes. You describe him approvingly as a pacifist, even a suicidal pacifist, no matter what. Then you turn around and consider my interpretation of what this would have meant to what was actually happening during WW-II as a "smear". Am I missing something? When some Goanetters email me personally and say they are sick and tired of me because I am a Pro-American, pro-George Bush, anti-Saddam, anti-Islamo-fascist nutcase, I don't take that as a "smear". I take it as a compliment. Maybe my skin is much thicker than yours. --- Santosh Helekar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ########################################################################## > # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] # > # Want to check the archives? > http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/ # > # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to > reflect respect to others # > ########################################################################## > > > --- Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >I do not intend to besmirch Mahatma Gandhi's memory > >by entering into a discussion of revisionist > history > >with you through his quotes. Let us agree to > >disagree. > > > > This must surely be a revisionist interpretation of > revisionist history. Who would have thought that > Mahatma Gandhi's own words would one day be > characterized as revisionist history in the service > of > an ideology that was so utterly alien to him - > especially, an ideology that is obsessed with > blatantly and shamelessly revising the history of an > illegal war over a meager span of two years. > > Regarding the rest of what this poster, Mario, has > written in his last post on this thread, he seems to > have once again found comfort in demonizing his > detractor. The "Thanksgiving Pledge" that he oh-so > solemnly affirmed in this forum seems to have not > been > sincere enough after all. > > Please witness his transparent attempts to > unjustifiably and dishonorably smear me, his > detractor, all simply because I posted some genuine > quotes from the writings of Mahatma Gandhi, which > contradicted his misguided notions regarding the > Mahatma: > > "I am glad that you (Santosh) think that the > Japanese > Imperialists were a benign and peace-loving power > that India could have negotiated with. You > (Santosh) > are probably outraged that the US did not clap their > hands in glee after Pearl Harbor, and exclaim about > what wonderful people the Japanese were." > - Quote from Mario Goveia's > writings > > "I'm glad you (Santosh) think that the Chinese, who > were invaded and brutalized by the Japanese, should > have just layed back and enjoyed the rape of their > country." > - Quote from Mario Goveia's > writings > > "By an extension of your reasoning, you (Santosh) > must > be quite pleased that the Jews in Germany and Poland > went peacefully to the Nazi gas chambers without any > resistence. I guess it never occurred to them to > negotiate with the Nazis." > - Quote from Mario Goveia's > writings > > "I wonder what advice you (Santosh) had for the > Nazis, > the Viet Cong, Pol Pot, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and > Saddam > Hussein? With friends like you, their victims > certainly did not need enemies." > - Quote from Mario Goveia's > writings > > Most other Goanetters would have simply admitted > that > they were wrong or just stated their disagreement > with > Mahatma Gandhi's views, as evident from his quotes. > > Cheers, > > Santosh > > >