Folks,

I apologize for Joe Vaz wasting your bandwidth.  He has not offered one 
substantive point to
counter the facts pointed out.  He is upset by my comments but has not spoken a 
word when a
like-minded person in his group used the phrase "sick and depraved" to refer to 
people who
occasionally raise church issues.  Their name-calling, personal attacks, spring 
from their own
insecurity of their beliefs. His understanding of current church theology is a 
10 year-old in
catechism class.  I have no problem with 10 year-olds or catechism class, 
except when adults wear
their holy-than-thou attitude on their religious sleeve in public.  I can only 
take them seriously
when their offer a balanced view and acknowledge some of the issues raised.  

Since Joe Vaz and others are not offering any substantive points to discuss, 
this is my final
post.  They are not interested in serious discussion except to malign people 
and their views - and
waste bandwidth in the process.

Regards,
George



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