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>    1. Thought for Today (Cip Fernandes)
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>    3. Re: Re: [Goanet] This weekend's ILUG-Goa meet 23072005 * Goa
>        Science  Centre 1500-1700 (Frederick Noronha (FN))
>    4. Re: SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm (Frederick
> Noronha (FN))
>    5. Re: A call for ACTION to the leader of World Goa Day, Rene Barretto
> (Gabe Menezes)
>    6. Re: Re ; Anti- Village Panchayat (Bernado Colaco)
>    7. Caju Feni.....in Sweden ? (Tom & Carolina)
>    8. Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ? (Dr. Ambert Pimenta)
>    9. AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - July 20, 2005! (domnic fernandes)
>   10. Re: Tarvitache Jivit (Anthony Pinheiro)
>   11. JaZZ night at Starters & More (Jazz Goa)
>   12. Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets (Frederick Noronha (FN))
>   13. Re: Bed-nets (Gabriel de Figueiredo)
>   14. 22nd July FRIDAY BALCAO:Inclusive Education - making it  feasible in
>        Goa (Goa Desc)
>   15. Workshop on Personal and Professional Excellence-6th & 7th August
> (sandeep heble)
>   16. Re: Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets (Gabriel de Figueiredo)
> 
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> Message: 1
> From: "Cip Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Goanet" <goanet@goanet.org>
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:16:18 +0100
> Subject: [Goanet]Thought for Today
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> 
> Embrace Change
> 
> When you are aware and accept that everything around you is constantly
> changing, and that you have no control over 99.99% of it, you are able to
> embrace change like a close friend!
> 
> Change is a like a river, constantly flowing and moving things around.
> 
> The river of life is constantly bringing you ideas, people, situations -
> each one is an opportunity to be enriched or to enrich others, to grow and
> to learn.
> 
> Change is the play of the universe as it entertains us in the biggest
> light-and-sound show of all time.
> 
> Why fight it, why not sit back and enjoy the show?
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:21:21 +0200 (CEST)
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Goanet]Re: Indian Car Exports: Mahindra & Maruti
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> When I wrote my thesis, back in 1985 ( on "Third World Multinationals"), I
> was in Athens and went to interview one Mr Kouniakis, who was the boss of
> Mahindra Hellenic, a struggling joint venture (the only officialy
> permissible form of Indian direct investment abroad in those days) with
> M&M. It's funny to see that the parameters have hardly changed since then.
> 
> Another anecdote. A few years later, just (almost) out of the plane from
> Calcutta (as it was called then), where I had been toured around by
> Dipankar 'Arsenic' Chakraborty in his little red Maruti (quite a sight in
> the natural biotope of the Ambie), I was picked up from the airport in
> Nice (France) by my aunt in a little red car which looked familiar. Before
> I had time to think about it, she burst out in enthusiastic banter about
> how glad she was "wize may byautifull littel MAARROUTEEE" ... (needless to
> say their other car was a Mercedes ;-)
> 
> cheerio, patrizio & Diiiinoooos!
> 
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:54:44 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Fusion Energy and ITER
> 
> (...)
> 
>> 
>> India actually exports far larger volumes of vehicles
>> than China. It exported over 100K cars last year and
>> should export over 140K this year. The biggest
>> exporters are Hyundai, followed by Maruti, Tata, Ford
>> and Mahindra. Amongst these companies, only Tata and
>> Mahindra can be considered to be genuinely home grown
>> manufacturers. While their products may be considered
>> crude relative to what the world has to offer, this is
>> more by design rather than ability. Tata and Mahindra
>> have invested in engineering capability that is world
>> class, but their products have been designed to meet
>> the needs (i.e. budget) of the Indian consumer. The
>> current obsession with Tata is to produce a 1 lakh
>> car. Ratan Tata, the head of Tata Motors envisions
>> this car being India's equivalent to America's Model
>> T. It remains to be seen if Tata can deliver such a
>> product.
>> 
>> The success of the low cost manufacturers in India
>> will not necessarily translate to export success
>> abroad. Indian products have had some success in
>> Africa and those parts of the world that are price
>> sensitive. However, these markets are relatively
>> small. Conversely, they have failed to make much of an
>> impact in richer markets such as in Europe and do not
>> exist in America. Tata has been selling cars in the UK
>> for about a decade with limited success. These markets
>> demand higher spec. and higher performance products
>> (at a higher price point of course)which do not
>> completely mesh with the market needs of the Indian
>> market.  In contrast, the foreign based manufacturers
>> (Hyundai and Suzuki/Maruti) which already have
>> established themselves in foreign markets and have
>> broad product lines are using India as a regional hub
>> for exports to parts of Asia, Europe and the Middle
>> east. In the short run therefore, companies like
>> Hyundai and Suzuki will continue to be India's primary
>> exporters. In the longer term, it is possible that
>> Tata could become a major world player.
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 3
> Subject: Re: Re: [Goanet] This weekend's ILUG-Goa meet 23072005 * Goa
> Science  Centre 1500-1700
> From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Organization: Independent Journalist
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:21:25 +0530
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
>> Latex was great in the DOS and early Windows era when the editing
>> software and the underlying hardware (x86 based PCs) were unable to
>> handle the graphic rich and numerically intense content that was
>> utilized in typical technical theses.... Today the issue of computing
>> power is rarely an issue and even the lowest end/ cheapest system is
>> probably more than adequate for most users. Likewise generic products
>> by Microsoft and others are so rich in features and are well entrenched
>> in the system that it is almost pointless to use anything else.
> 
> Hi Marlon, I'm not sure your pro-Microsoft view and suggestion that
> Latex-is-outdated is on-target. Incidentally, I used Lyx to format a
> book, and, inspite of being a beginner, found it really very helpful and
> intelligent in its approach.
> 
> See what Wikipedia explains (rather well put):
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX
> 
> LaTeX is based on the idea that authors should be able to concentrate on
> writing within the logical structure of their document, rather than
> spending their time on the details of formatting. It encourages the
> separation of formatting from content, whilst still allowing manual
> typesetting adjustments where needed.
> 
> By keeping the formatting details in a separate file from the text, it
> is often regarded as superior to word processors and most other desktop
> publishing systems, which allow trivially easy visual layout changes but
> tend to intertwine content and form so tightly that consistency and
> automation are often difficult. LaTeX also provides great flexibility in
> formatting while maintaining the identity of structure, which purely
> structural systems like SGML and XML do not directly address.
> 
> LaTeX can be arbitrarily extended by using the underlying macro language
> for developing custom formats. For example, there are numerous
> commercial implementations of the whole TeX system (which includes
> LaTeX), and vendors may offer extra features like phone support and
> additional typefaces.
> 
> LyX is a visual document processor that uses LaTeX for a back-end.
> TeXmacs is a free, WYSIWYG editor with similar functionalities as LaTeX,
> but a different typesetting motor. A number of popular commercial DTP
> systems use modified versions of the original TeX typesetting engine.
> The recent rise in popularity of XML systems and the demand for
> large-scale batch production of publication-quality typesetting from
> such sources has seen a steady increase in the use of LaTeX. END QUOTE.
> 
> Of course, each tool is suitable for a particular job. I think tools
> like Latex score for writing books, doing a thesis or project report, or
> even writing an academic/seminar paper. My friend in Kerala, CVR (better
> known by his initials), visited Goa some time back, and we got him and
> his friends to deliver a talk at Verna's Padre Conceicao College of
> Engineering. They do some great work for top global commercial
> publishers like Elsivier -- Elsevier.com.
> 
> This may be a simplistic arguement: there must be some reason why this
> firm chooses Free Software (over its proprietorial competitors), and
> cost is obviously not the issue here. Also, there must be some reason
> why a top global publisher prefers a firm which uses Free Software for
> its work.
> 
> Maybe I'm getting rhetorical here, but after nearly four years of
> hassle-free computing -- no software crashes, no virii and data safe
> during this period -- maybe I know the answer ;-) FN
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Message: 4
> From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Organization: Independent Journalist
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:12:16 +0530
> Subject: [Goanet]Re: SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> Seen another way, it could just mean that all would have to settle for
> less noisy religious (and other) services late in the night.
> 
> In the past, there were few blaring horns (which are particularly noisy,
> and uni-directional... god help if the funnel is directed at your home).
> Yet all made do with less-ear shattering sound systems. Today, 10,000
> watts too seems insufficient. Why?
> 
> We don't have to tell the village and the world that we're celebrating
> or praying or whatever. If the devotees can follow the service, than
> that should suffice. All religions are offenders on the noise front, not
> to speak of the commercialised party circuit (including the wedding
> halls that are lucrative business in today's Goa). FN
> 
>> .. Now, *midnight mass* will be held in the evenings???
>> Lawrence
> -----
> See http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200507191610.htm
> 
> SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm
> 
> New Delhi, July. 19 (PTI): In a huge relief to citizens reeling under
> excessive
> sound pollution, the Supreme Court in an omnibus order completely banned
> across
> the country use of loudspeakers and vehicular horns and bursting of fire
> crackers after 2200 hours till 0600 hours near residential areas.
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:16:29 +0100
> From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]A call for ACTION to the leader of World Goa Day, Rene
> Barretto
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> On 19/07/05, eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> =20
>> Divisive !!  Try Canyon - none of the women in my life
>> -  my grandmother, my mother , my aunts, would let
>> you, or Gabe, for that matter, past the front door,
>> even as the men, certainly my dad, would solicit your
>> company and that of Brahmin killjoys, in a taverna:
>> more questions, Gabe ?               eric.
> 
> RESPONSE: Ayeee caramba! I was so looking forward to getting past your
> front door, thanks for warning me of the formidable women in your
> life! What about the wife? :-)
> 
> Cheers.
> Gabe Menezes.
> London England
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:17:11 +0100 (BST)
> From: Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re ; Anti- Village Panchayat
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> 
> 
>  
>> GOA IS A DYSFUNCTIONAL SOCIETY, AS BY NOW IT DOES
>> NOT
>> NEED FURTHER PROOF THAT "A SOCIETY GETS THE
>> GOVERNMENT/S IT DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>> 
> 
> ===========
> 
> What we have seen for the past 4 decades is the Death
> of Rule of Law. These are the results of the famous
> 'Liberation'. 
> 
> B. Colaco
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:54:27 -0400
> From: Tom & Carolina <goanet@goanet.org>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet]Caju Feni.....in Sweden ?
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> Alfred de Tavares.
> Re: Caju Feni.
> Seing in the Goanet Caju Feni arouse my interest in your article.
> Is the quality of caju feni good in Sweden.
> keep in touch and all the best.
> 
> Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong.
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:57:03 -0400
> From: "Dr. Ambert Pimenta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet]Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ?
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> I guess your right Mario , we need change and change is the thing for 2005.
> But need we listen to your rambling and getting involved in every comment
> made on Goanet ? Yes this is an open forum , but  Goanet as any other forum
> has rules .. rules that you dont really care about.  Why not opt for other
> forums for this line of talk.
> Your contributions to this forum are invaluable and I welcome reading all
> your posts, but when it gets into debates and personal atacks  of no merit ,
> i'd rather use the "delete" button more often. Dont take any of the silent
> members as imbeciles , they are all well educated and are intelligent in
> their own right. That  they choose not to enter debates does not mean there
> is no personal feedback on what goes on in this forum.
> 
> Lets not make  this another case of splitting up this group as it happened
> some years back with the birth of the Goa Forum.
> 
> Best wishes always,
> Dr. Ambert
> http://www.goadentist.com
> 
> 
>> Mario replies:
>> Thanks for your comments and suggestion.  Maybe I, a
>> new Goanetter, have misunderstood what Goanet is all
>> about.  Maybe you, an old Goanetter, have too narrow a
>> view of what interests Goenkars in 2005.  The 262
>> posts by various posters, only 107 of which which I
>> took issue with, were often initiated by them, not me.
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 9
> From: "domnic fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:18:20 +0300
> Subject: [Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - July 20, 2005!
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> Tujea poticher/potinicher tujem titlench ghott patiennem jitlem tujem
> patiennem tujer.
> 
> (Your trust in your spouse is only as strong as your trust in yourself.)
> 
> Moi-mogan,
> Domnic Fernandes
> Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA
> 
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> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:01:25 -0400
> From: Anthony Pinheiro <goanet@goanet.org>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet]Re: Tarvitache Jivit
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> Dear Joe Morais,
> 
> I too read your Article "Salior's Dilema" 3 times again and again
>   what you said is perfectly correct.
> 
> Thank you very much,  the article was so touching.
> 
> Anthony Pinheiro
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:00:23 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Jazz Goa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet]JaZZ night at Starters & More
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> Starters & More, Eros building, Churchgate, Mumbai
> presents
> JAZZ JUNCTION
> with Connie and Mozart-India's most accomplished jazz
> vocalists.
> 
> Connie Rose...Vocals/Keyboards
> Mozart Rose...Vocals/Guitar
> Marshall Rose...Saxophone
> Colin D'Cruz...Bass
> Lester Godinho...Drums
> 
> Starters & More comes alive every first wednesday of
> the month with some smooth JaZZ, good food and great
> company all in a chilled out ambience. As usual they
> will be a whole lot of guest JaZZ artistes taking the
> stage with JAZZ JUNCTION to make it yet another
> immensely entertaining night out.
> 3rd August, 9pm onwards. No cover charge.
> Call Carmo 9821635055 or Prema 9821140611 to have your
> table reserved.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
> Message: 12
> From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Organization: Independent Journalist
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:06:58 +0530
> Subject: [Goanet]Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> In Goa, we often use the fan as a anti-malarial! And, in those areas
> where malaria isn't an issue, to keep those pesky mosquitoes away. While
> sleeping, it's common to have the fan on, since mosquitoes don't
> irritate with a fan (prefererrably whirring fast overhead).
> 
>           While this may be a working solution, it also seems to be
>           a huge waste of energy. Why should a fan be needed even
>           in the rainy season or winter, when the weather doesn't
>           actually quite warrant it? Can we afford to waste resources
>           in these days of global warming and weather change?
> 
> In this context, I would like to hear from others who have experience
> with using bed-nets. We've heard via Goanet that expats in Africa would
> often resort to bed-nets. Anti-malaria campaigns globally talk not just
> of bed-nets, but ones soaked in chemicals, that keep the mossies away.
> 
> Strange but true: in today's Goa, very few people use bed-nets. Ashley
> mentions that this used to be done in his grandmum's home in Margao, a
> generation ago. While talking about the issue casually, Soter said that
> the cotton bed-nets in Africa lasted for 10-12 years (but when
> implemented in Goa, often ended up with holes).
> 
> I just thought of trying out this solution, and ran into a roadside
> vendor who quoted Rs 110 for a plastic bednet. He willingly gave it for
> Rs 60! But, apparently, the cloth bed-nets costing about Rs 200 (not
> sure) in Panjim work better.
> 
> Would anyone care to share their experiences on this? FN
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:39:59 +1000 (EST)
> From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Bed-nets
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> 
> --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> In this context, I would like to hear from others
>> who have experience
>> with using bed-nets.
> 
> Fred, I used a bed-net (mosquiteiro - mosquito-net as
> we used to call them) until I was about 12 years old,
> in Goa, in Panjim; different story when we used to go
> to Loutolim for the hols, as there we slept on a mat
> on the floor, but then, mosquito-nets were not
> required there as there were no mosquitoes during
> those days (no electricity either - it came to
> Loutolim circa 1970).
> 
> Regardless of the above, it appears that mosquitoes
> also breed terrifically in septic tanks. One of my
> cousins from Benaulim once remarked to me, that if
> everyone placed a very fine-meshed netting
> (non-perishable, nylon will do) on the mouth of the
> breather-pipe or vent-pipe of the septic-tank, the
> mosquito problem would be reduced dramatically. This,
> after observing the said pipe at sun-down. If this
> observation holds true, I think it ought to be
> publicized. 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Gabriel de Figueiredo.
> Melbourne - Australia.
> 
> Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:16:05 +0530
> From: Goa Desc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: goanet@goanet.org
> Subject: [Goanet]22nd July FRIDAY BALCAO:Inclusive Education - making it
> feasible in
>  Goa
> Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------
> Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO
> Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website
> http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet,
> 
> Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event
> to be held on 22nd July will focus on
> making Inclusive Education feasible in Goa.
> 
> Worldwide there is a conscious shift away from special
> schooling to mainstream schooling of education for
> children with disabilities. It is also an objective of
> many Govts. to make mainstream education not just
> available but accessible, affordable and appropriate
> for students with disabilities.
> 
> The Union Minister for Human Resource Development
> made a comprehensive statement in Parliament in March
> with regards Inclusive Education. This means that
> the Govt. is committing itself to implement its policy on
> inclusive education through the provisions of the Persons
> with Disabilities Act 1995, Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, the
> Revised Plan for Inclusive Education of Children and Youth
> with Disabilities (IECYD) and the Scheme of Integrated
> Education for the Disabled Children (IEDC).
> 
> How will all this become feasible in the context of Goa?
> What kind of intervention will be possible through the
> Integrated Child Development Services (ICDS) Programme ?
> How will the Anganwadi workers be trained to detect
> disabilities at an early stage ?
> 
> How can the Managements, Staff and the Parent
> Teachers Associations (PTA's) of Educational Institutions
> contribute to make Inclusive Education feasible in Goa ?
> What role can NGO's, Service Clubs and Mahila Mandals
> play in this effort ?
> 
> The Balcao discussion will cover these questions and
> also evolve an agenda for action by citizens on the issue.
> 
> Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm
> at the Goa Desc Resource Centre
> No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta,
> Mapusa and is open to  members of the public.
> 
> We invite you to express your viewpoint
> by attending the Friday Balcao event
> but if you cannot attend, then please send your
> views and action plan suggestions by post to
> FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507
> or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Those of you who would like to receive
> the regular invitation to Friday Balcao and a one page synopsis
> of the fortnightly session can subscribe for the same
> by sending Rs.100/- to cover printing and mailing costs.
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> Roland Martins
> =======================================
> GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE
> Documentation + Education + Solidarity
> 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507
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