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Regards Marina On 20/7/05 11:37 am, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Send Goanet mailing list submissions to > goanet@goanet.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.goanet.org/mailman/listinfo/goanet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Goanet digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Thought for Today (Cip Fernandes) > 2. Re: Indian Car Exports: Mahindra & Maruti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > 3. Re: Re: [Goanet] This weekend's ILUG-Goa meet 23072005 * Goa > Science Centre 1500-1700 (Frederick Noronha (FN)) > 4. Re: SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm (Frederick > Noronha (FN)) > 5. Re: A call for ACTION to the leader of World Goa Day, Rene Barretto > (Gabe Menezes) > 6. Re: Re ; Anti- Village Panchayat (Bernado Colaco) > 7. Caju Feni.....in Sweden ? (Tom & Carolina) > 8. Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ? (Dr. Ambert Pimenta) > 9. AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - July 20, 2005! (domnic fernandes) > 10. Re: Tarvitache Jivit (Anthony Pinheiro) > 11. JaZZ night at Starters & More (Jazz Goa) > 12. Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets (Frederick Noronha (FN)) > 13. Re: Bed-nets (Gabriel de Figueiredo) > 14. 22nd July FRIDAY BALCAO:Inclusive Education - making it feasible in > Goa (Goa Desc) > 15. Workshop on Personal and Professional Excellence-6th & 7th August > (sandeep heble) > 16. Re: Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets (Gabriel de Figueiredo) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Cip Fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Goanet" <goanet@goanet.org> > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:16:18 +0100 > Subject: [Goanet]Thought for Today > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > > Embrace Change > > When you are aware and accept that everything around you is constantly > changing, and that you have no control over 99.99% of it, you are able to > embrace change like a close friend! > > Change is a like a river, constantly flowing and moving things around. > > The river of life is constantly bringing you ideas, people, situations - > each one is an opportunity to be enriched or to enrich others, to grow and > to learn. > > Change is the play of the universe as it entertains us in the biggest > light-and-sound show of all time. > > Why fight it, why not sit back and enjoy the show? > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:21:21 +0200 (CEST) > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: goanet@goanet.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Goanet]Re: Indian Car Exports: Mahindra & Maruti > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > When I wrote my thesis, back in 1985 ( on "Third World Multinationals"), I > was in Athens and went to interview one Mr Kouniakis, who was the boss of > Mahindra Hellenic, a struggling joint venture (the only officialy > permissible form of Indian direct investment abroad in those days) with > M&M. It's funny to see that the parameters have hardly changed since then. > > Another anecdote. A few years later, just (almost) out of the plane from > Calcutta (as it was called then), where I had been toured around by > Dipankar 'Arsenic' Chakraborty in his little red Maruti (quite a sight in > the natural biotope of the Ambie), I was picked up from the airport in > Nice (France) by my aunt in a little red car which looked familiar. Before > I had time to think about it, she burst out in enthusiastic banter about > how glad she was "wize may byautifull littel MAARROUTEEE" ... (needless to > say their other car was a Mercedes ;-) > > cheerio, patrizio & Diiiinoooos! > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:54:44 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Marlon Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Goanet]Fusion Energy and ITER > > (...) > >> >> India actually exports far larger volumes of vehicles >> than China. It exported over 100K cars last year and >> should export over 140K this year. The biggest >> exporters are Hyundai, followed by Maruti, Tata, Ford >> and Mahindra. Amongst these companies, only Tata and >> Mahindra can be considered to be genuinely home grown >> manufacturers. While their products may be considered >> crude relative to what the world has to offer, this is >> more by design rather than ability. Tata and Mahindra >> have invested in engineering capability that is world >> class, but their products have been designed to meet >> the needs (i.e. budget) of the Indian consumer. The >> current obsession with Tata is to produce a 1 lakh >> car. Ratan Tata, the head of Tata Motors envisions >> this car being India's equivalent to America's Model >> T. It remains to be seen if Tata can deliver such a >> product. >> >> The success of the low cost manufacturers in India >> will not necessarily translate to export success >> abroad. Indian products have had some success in >> Africa and those parts of the world that are price >> sensitive. However, these markets are relatively >> small. Conversely, they have failed to make much of an >> impact in richer markets such as in Europe and do not >> exist in America. Tata has been selling cars in the UK >> for about a decade with limited success. These markets >> demand higher spec. and higher performance products >> (at a higher price point of course)which do not >> completely mesh with the market needs of the Indian >> market. In contrast, the foreign based manufacturers >> (Hyundai and Suzuki/Maruti) which already have >> established themselves in foreign markets and have >> broad product lines are using India as a regional hub >> for exports to parts of Asia, Europe and the Middle >> east. In the short run therefore, companies like >> Hyundai and Suzuki will continue to be India's primary >> exporters. In the longer term, it is possible that >> Tata could become a major world player. >> >> > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Subject: Re: Re: [Goanet] This weekend's ILUG-Goa meet 23072005 * Goa > Science Centre 1500-1700 > From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Organization: Independent Journalist > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:21:25 +0530 > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > >> Latex was great in the DOS and early Windows era when the editing >> software and the underlying hardware (x86 based PCs) were unable to >> handle the graphic rich and numerically intense content that was >> utilized in typical technical theses.... Today the issue of computing >> power is rarely an issue and even the lowest end/ cheapest system is >> probably more than adequate for most users. Likewise generic products >> by Microsoft and others are so rich in features and are well entrenched >> in the system that it is almost pointless to use anything else. > > Hi Marlon, I'm not sure your pro-Microsoft view and suggestion that > Latex-is-outdated is on-target. Incidentally, I used Lyx to format a > book, and, inspite of being a beginner, found it really very helpful and > intelligent in its approach. > > See what Wikipedia explains (rather well put): > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaTeX > > LaTeX is based on the idea that authors should be able to concentrate on > writing within the logical structure of their document, rather than > spending their time on the details of formatting. It encourages the > separation of formatting from content, whilst still allowing manual > typesetting adjustments where needed. > > By keeping the formatting details in a separate file from the text, it > is often regarded as superior to word processors and most other desktop > publishing systems, which allow trivially easy visual layout changes but > tend to intertwine content and form so tightly that consistency and > automation are often difficult. LaTeX also provides great flexibility in > formatting while maintaining the identity of structure, which purely > structural systems like SGML and XML do not directly address. > > LaTeX can be arbitrarily extended by using the underlying macro language > for developing custom formats. For example, there are numerous > commercial implementations of the whole TeX system (which includes > LaTeX), and vendors may offer extra features like phone support and > additional typefaces. > > LyX is a visual document processor that uses LaTeX for a back-end. > TeXmacs is a free, WYSIWYG editor with similar functionalities as LaTeX, > but a different typesetting motor. A number of popular commercial DTP > systems use modified versions of the original TeX typesetting engine. > The recent rise in popularity of XML systems and the demand for > large-scale batch production of publication-quality typesetting from > such sources has seen a steady increase in the use of LaTeX. END QUOTE. > > Of course, each tool is suitable for a particular job. I think tools > like Latex score for writing books, doing a thesis or project report, or > even writing an academic/seminar paper. My friend in Kerala, CVR (better > known by his initials), visited Goa some time back, and we got him and > his friends to deliver a talk at Verna's Padre Conceicao College of > Engineering. They do some great work for top global commercial > publishers like Elsivier -- Elsevier.com. > > This may be a simplistic arguement: there must be some reason why this > firm chooses Free Software (over its proprietorial competitors), and > cost is obviously not the issue here. Also, there must be some reason > why a top global publisher prefers a firm which uses Free Software for > its work. > > Maybe I'm getting rhetorical here, but after nearly four years of > hassle-free computing -- no software crashes, no virii and data safe > during this period -- maybe I know the answer ;-) FN > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Organization: Independent Journalist > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:12:16 +0530 > Subject: [Goanet]Re: SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > Seen another way, it could just mean that all would have to settle for > less noisy religious (and other) services late in the night. > > In the past, there were few blaring horns (which are particularly noisy, > and uni-directional... god help if the funnel is directed at your home). > Yet all made do with less-ear shattering sound systems. Today, 10,000 > watts too seems insufficient. Why? > > We don't have to tell the village and the world that we're celebrating > or praying or whatever. If the devotees can follow the service, than > that should suffice. All religions are offenders on the noise front, not > to speak of the commercialised party circuit (including the wedding > halls that are lucrative business in today's Goa). FN > >> .. Now, *midnight mass* will be held in the evenings??? >> Lawrence > ----- > See http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/001200507191610.htm > > SC bans use of horns, loudspeakers, crackers after 10 pm > > New Delhi, July. 19 (PTI): In a huge relief to citizens reeling under > excessive > sound pollution, the Supreme Court in an omnibus order completely banned > across > the country use of loudspeakers and vehicular horns and bursting of fire > crackers after 2200 hours till 0600 hours near residential areas. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:16:29 +0100 > From: Gabe Menezes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: Re: [Goanet]A call for ACTION to the leader of World Goa Day, Rene > Barretto > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > On 19/07/05, eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> =20 >> Divisive !! Try Canyon - none of the women in my life >> - my grandmother, my mother , my aunts, would let >> you, or Gabe, for that matter, past the front door, >> even as the men, certainly my dad, would solicit your >> company and that of Brahmin killjoys, in a taverna: >> more questions, Gabe ? eric. > > RESPONSE: Ayeee caramba! I was so looking forward to getting past your > front door, thanks for warning me of the formidable women in your > life! What about the wife? :-) > > Cheers. > Gabe Menezes. > London England > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 03:17:11 +0100 (BST) > From: Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet]Re ; Anti- Village Panchayat > To: goanet@goanet.org > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > > > >> GOA IS A DYSFUNCTIONAL SOCIETY, AS BY NOW IT DOES >> NOT >> NEED FURTHER PROOF THAT "A SOCIETY GETS THE >> GOVERNMENT/S IT DESERVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > =========== > > What we have seen for the past 4 decades is the Death > of Rule of Law. These are the results of the famous > 'Liberation'. > > B. Colaco > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail > http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:54:27 -0400 > From: Tom & Carolina <goanet@goanet.org> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet]Caju Feni.....in Sweden ? > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > Alfred de Tavares. > Re: Caju Feni. > Seing in the Goanet Caju Feni arouse my interest in your article. > Is the quality of caju feni good in Sweden. > keep in touch and all the best. > > Tom de Sousa in Hong Kong. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:57:03 -0400 > From: "Dr. Ambert Pimenta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet]Re: How about Goanet's TOP TEN CHART ? > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > I guess your right Mario , we need change and change is the thing for 2005. > But need we listen to your rambling and getting involved in every comment > made on Goanet ? Yes this is an open forum , but Goanet as any other forum > has rules .. rules that you dont really care about. Why not opt for other > forums for this line of talk. > Your contributions to this forum are invaluable and I welcome reading all > your posts, but when it gets into debates and personal atacks of no merit , > i'd rather use the "delete" button more often. Dont take any of the silent > members as imbeciles , they are all well educated and are intelligent in > their own right. That they choose not to enter debates does not mean there > is no personal feedback on what goes on in this forum. > > Lets not make this another case of splitting up this group as it happened > some years back with the birth of the Goa Forum. > > Best wishes always, > Dr. Ambert > http://www.goadentist.com > > >> Mario replies: >> Thanks for your comments and suggestion. Maybe I, a >> new Goanetter, have misunderstood what Goanet is all >> about. Maybe you, an old Goanetter, have too narrow a >> view of what interests Goenkars in 2005. The 262 >> posts by various posters, only 107 of which which I >> took issue with, were often initiated by them, not me. > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: "domnic fernandes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:18:20 +0300 > Subject: [Goanet]AICHEA DISSAK CHINTOP - July 20, 2005! > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > Tujea poticher/potinicher tujem titlench ghott patiennem jitlem tujem > patiennem tujer. > > (Your trust in your spouse is only as strong as your trust in yourself.) > > Moi-mogan, > Domnic Fernandes > Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:01:25 -0400 > From: Anthony Pinheiro <goanet@goanet.org> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet]Re: Tarvitache Jivit > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > Dear Joe Morais, > > I too read your Article "Salior's Dilema" 3 times again and again > what you said is perfectly correct. > > Thank you very much, the article was so touching. > > Anthony Pinheiro > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:00:23 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jazz Goa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet]JaZZ night at Starters & More > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > Starters & More, Eros building, Churchgate, Mumbai > presents > JAZZ JUNCTION > with Connie and Mozart-India's most accomplished jazz > vocalists. > > Connie Rose...Vocals/Keyboards > Mozart Rose...Vocals/Guitar > Marshall Rose...Saxophone > Colin D'Cruz...Bass > Lester Godinho...Drums > > Starters & More comes alive every first wednesday of > the month with some smooth JaZZ, good food and great > company all in a chilled out ambience. As usual they > will be a whole lot of guest JaZZ artistes taking the > stage with JAZZ JUNCTION to make it yet another > immensely entertaining night out. > 3rd August, 9pm onwards. No cover charge. > Call Carmo 9821635055 or Prema 9821140611 to have your > table reserved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> live jazz promoted by http://www.jazzgoa.com <<< > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > From: "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Organization: Independent Journalist > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:06:58 +0530 > Subject: [Goanet]Malaria, mosquitoes... and bed-nets > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > In Goa, we often use the fan as a anti-malarial! And, in those areas > where malaria isn't an issue, to keep those pesky mosquitoes away. While > sleeping, it's common to have the fan on, since mosquitoes don't > irritate with a fan (prefererrably whirring fast overhead). > > While this may be a working solution, it also seems to be > a huge waste of energy. Why should a fan be needed even > in the rainy season or winter, when the weather doesn't > actually quite warrant it? Can we afford to waste resources > in these days of global warming and weather change? > > In this context, I would like to hear from others who have experience > with using bed-nets. We've heard via Goanet that expats in Africa would > often resort to bed-nets. Anti-malaria campaigns globally talk not just > of bed-nets, but ones soaked in chemicals, that keep the mossies away. > > Strange but true: in today's Goa, very few people use bed-nets. Ashley > mentions that this used to be done in his grandmum's home in Margao, a > generation ago. While talking about the issue casually, Soter said that > the cotton bed-nets in Africa lasted for 10-12 years (but when > implemented in Goa, often ended up with holes). > > I just thought of trying out this solution, and ran into a roadside > vendor who quoted Rs 110 for a plastic bednet. He willingly gave it for > Rs 60! But, apparently, the cloth bed-nets costing about Rs 200 (not > sure) in Panjim work better. > > Would anyone care to share their experiences on this? FN > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:39:59 +1000 (EST) > From: Gabriel de Figueiredo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Goanet]Bed-nets > To: goanet@goanet.org > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > > --- "Frederick Noronha (FN)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> In this context, I would like to hear from others >> who have experience >> with using bed-nets. > > Fred, I used a bed-net (mosquiteiro - mosquito-net as > we used to call them) until I was about 12 years old, > in Goa, in Panjim; different story when we used to go > to Loutolim for the hols, as there we slept on a mat > on the floor, but then, mosquito-nets were not > required there as there were no mosquitoes during > those days (no electricity either - it came to > Loutolim circa 1970). > > Regardless of the above, it appears that mosquitoes > also breed terrifically in septic tanks. One of my > cousins from Benaulim once remarked to me, that if > everyone placed a very fine-meshed netting > (non-perishable, nylon will do) on the mouth of the > breather-pipe or vent-pipe of the septic-tank, the > mosquito problem would be reduced dramatically. This, > after observing the said pipe at sun-down. If this > observation holds true, I think it ought to be > publicized. > > Cheers, > > Gabriel de Figueiredo. > Melbourne - Australia. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:16:05 +0530 > From: Goa Desc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: goanet@goanet.org > Subject: [Goanet]22nd July FRIDAY BALCAO:Inclusive Education - making it > feasible in > Goa > Reply-To: goanet@goanet.org > > ------------------------------------------------------ > Welcome to the FRIDAY BALCAO > Read the Balcao Synopsis on the website > http://www.goadesc.org/balcao/ > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear Cybergaokars on GoaNet, > > Friday Balcao the fortnightly discussion event > to be held on 22nd July will focus on > making Inclusive Education feasible in Goa. > > Worldwide there is a conscious shift away from special > schooling to mainstream schooling of education for > children with disabilities. It is also an objective of > many Govts. to make mainstream education not just > available but accessible, affordable and appropriate > for students with disabilities. > > The Union Minister for Human Resource Development > made a comprehensive statement in Parliament in March > with regards Inclusive Education. This means that > the Govt. is committing itself to implement its policy on > inclusive education through the provisions of the Persons > with Disabilities Act 1995, Sarva Shiksha Abhiyan, the > Revised Plan for Inclusive Education of Children and Youth > with Disabilities (IECYD) and the Scheme of Integrated > Education for the Disabled Children (IEDC). > > How will all this become feasible in the context of Goa? > What kind of intervention will be possible through the > Integrated Child Development Services (ICDS) Programme ? > How will the Anganwadi workers be trained to detect > disabilities at an early stage ? > > How can the Managements, Staff and the Parent > Teachers Associations (PTA's) of Educational Institutions > contribute to make Inclusive Education feasible in Goa ? > What role can NGO's, Service Clubs and Mahila Mandals > play in this effort ? > > The Balcao discussion will cover these questions and > also evolve an agenda for action by citizens on the issue. > > Friday Balcao will be from 4pm to 6pm > at the Goa Desc Resource Centre > No.11 Liberty Apartments Feira Alta, > Mapusa and is open to members of the public. > > We invite you to express your viewpoint > by attending the Friday Balcao event > but if you cannot attend, then please send your > views and action plan suggestions by post to > FRIDAY BALCAO Post Box 78, Mapusa 403 507 > or by email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Those of you who would like to receive > the regular invitation to Friday Balcao and a one page synopsis > of the fortnightly session can subscribe for the same > by sending Rs.100/- to cover printing and mailing costs. > > best wishes, > > Roland Martins > ======================================= > GOA DESC RESOURCE CENTRE > Documentation + Education + Solidarity > 11 Liberty Apts., Feira Alta, Mapusa, Goa 403 507 > Tel: 2252660 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > website: www.goadesc.org > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Working On Issues Of Development & Democracy > ======================================= >